The bible has also been said to be :the greatest story ever told". What the hell was this posted forWTF. I dont need to read the bible to believe in god, nor do I/we need you posting things like this here. Mods where are you......
actually you do... well to believe in the God of the holy bible..
you are supposed to read the scriptures...
if you don't think so read Matthew 4:4.. Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.
how is this violating anything? It IS posted in the hangout where anything should be able to be discussed within reason. If you dont like dont read it.
[qoute="to of the page"]The Hangout The non-serious zone. Use this forum for all non-tech and off topic discussions.
it also says that it is for all non tech off topic discussion. It depends on how you want to take it. I personnally see this as a proper post since he isnt spanmming anything, isnt posting in multiple forums. It is up to the mods but since it says in the title what it is about, if people dont want to read it, dont click it.
What is he discussing Jave? Do you really think he'll reply to this post?
We've had topics closed in this section because they were not of consequence to the cummunity. "What should I do about my girlfriend" etc, all have been considered out of the scope of relevance. This thread is WAY out of relevance. The guy is not a community member here, he does not own a WRX or walk to talk about a WRX or learn about a WRX. If someone from OUR community posted this, it'd be one thing but he is clearly NOT part of our community.
First off, as a Christian and pastor (yes, I'm actually a pastor) I must say that I do not agree with stuff like this (posting things that preach at people) as it only cheapens what Jesus taught and is a very poor example of what being a Christian is. Secondly, for those of you who disagree with what this guy says, please show grace, as I'm sure he has the best of intentions. I'll gladly talk with anyone about the truth I believe, but preaching at people and telling them they're a sinner is only going to do more damage than good in our society.
I do not see this as preaching. I too am a christian and this is pretty text book on how to lead non-christians in the prayer to be saved. I am just saying the response that was posted originally is what got me to post.
...aaaand most non-christians (like myself) find it a little, shall we say, intolerant? Personally I think threatening someone with eternal damnation in the fiery pits of hell is not a good way to make friends or pleasant conversation
Can I make a post about the Satanic version of history and provide videos and passages from the satanic book?
I'd be willing to bet that every religious person AND the majority of non practicing people would complain. Personally I get sick of hearing people preach or coming to my door and inviting me to join a church. So many people defend people like the OP that preach and claim "freedom of speech" but they will be the first to complain about someone voicing opinions on something they don't believe.
Christians are the worst, they will let every other group know about how they are sinners and going to burn in hell if you don't believe what they do; Not bashing, just observing what I've seen. If I wanted to go to church I would get off the couch and go. I also don't want to hear the first words out of someones mouth to be "well, since I'm a christian" blah blah blah.
You can believe anything you want but I don't need to hear about it. I am very tolerant until you start pushing views on me.
Well, I could go on and on but it will not help anyone.
OK. would you agree that toe point of the title of a thread is to give potential readers a brief idea of what the thread is about? I would hope so.
Now that we have this understanding explain to me how the OP is forcing his beliefs on you if you already have read the title and still chose to click and read the thread? Now to answer your question. Yes I would be offended if I felt I was lured into reading you satanic thread if you titled it something that had nothing to do with it. However, if you titled it "I worship satan and heres why" I would just continue on with my day.
cliffs note: pushing beliefs on someone is not when that "offended" person continues to read after being warned(title of the thread) about what the offenive thread is about.
Ok, as I am Christian, and I do believe. I do understand that most people have their opinions about "the word" and it's interpretation. Anyone that's been involved with any type of discussion of this nature has also reaped the repercussion of the said conversation.
Long story short, there are 2 subjects that you don't participate in, in a public arena. Number 1 is religion, number 2 is politics.
If this gets stupid, it's done. Let's have some respect for the OP, until he/she proves that they can't be respected. I'd like to see a positive discussion/debate about religion, but most like to spit their retoric and bs about the subject, without the proper knowledge of how to approach this issue.
i too am a christian.. and hate when "christians" force belief on others.. but this isn't forcing.. preaching.. or any of that.. this is like if someone posted a thread about Evo's and how good they are.. is that forcing you to become an evo owner? no.. do you have the option to learn something ya.. do you have to read it? no..
its like any other post you don't care for..
there is no forceful action here..
and jave is right.. its off-topic...and in an off-topic section.. and its not really controversial as its not saying YOU NEED TO BE CHRISTIAN OR YOU WILL BURN!
its just sharing the story behind the bible.
I don't mind the post at all. As Jave already said, it is in The Hangout area of the forum. The best part about it is that you can either choose to read it or not. A reason why I love America.
All the guy did is join this forum post his/her beliefs and leave, to which that person will never come back. I would call that a spammer. I dont care about your religion, I may care about your car, but there is no need for this in a WRX forum:notgood: Would you go to a religious forum and talk about a WRX............NOity:
Bottom line: he didn't actually break any forum rules... BUT as a pastor myself I think the method and content of his post does a disservice to Christians, the teachings of Jesus, and Jesus himself. Not trying to argue with anyone, just making sure people know that not all Christians are like the original poster.
Actually he has broken a forum rule, the one that involves spamming. Unfortunately, I'm going to have to lock this. If I let this stay open and close someone elses thread doing the same, this does a disservice to the other forum members.
I'm sorry to do it, but rules are rules.
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