You don't need all the STi parts, just the speed parts. The newer STis do have better and more parts than the older STis (larger hubs, etc) and if you do track days in a fairly stock car the STi is better, but if you go road racing for real, you will replace most of the STi specific parts anyway (or buy an Evo - sacrelege ).
Of course the driver is the most important part. I was just yanking on the STi drivers chain, I would be faster in an STi than my car, but I still wouldn't be able to catch that 89 Honda Civic hatchback - light weight is important in a class that limits tire width. I listen to STi drivers talk about the different gears they use in different parts of the course - after I shift to second, I leave it there 99% of the time. Just because it is a generalization doesn't mean it isn't generally true. People who buy STis tend to be power junkies who point and shoot.
you cant tune for the turbulence the intake causes around the maf sensor. thats what throws the readings off. turbulence is random.
Actually turbulence can be very predictable. Fully developed turbulent flow in a pipe has a very specific velocity profile across the cross section of the pipe. Remember that the SPT intake is from Subaru and does not void the warranty. These are the same guys who designed the stock intake so I would be willing to bet that they designed it with the correct flow profile at the MAF sensor.
(or buy an Evo - sacrelege ).
I shift to second, I leave it there 99% of the time.
im actually looking at buying either an 05 EVO VIII or a new IX
i agree on that as well i rarley leave second gear. i hit the limiter sometimes but when that happens if i shift to third id have to shift down like half a second later.
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02 rex is gone.
I defected to an evo :)
im actually looking at buying either an 05 EVO VIII or a new IX
i agree on that as well i rarley leave second gear. i hit the limiter sometimes but when that happens if i shift to third id have to shift down like half a second later.
this might be off topic a bit but, can someone post the meaning of all the acronyms you guys use. i'm new to this Subaru Modding thing and i get lost when someone talks acronyms. thanks
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im actually looking at buying either an 05 EVO VIII or a new IX
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i dont like it.
looks too much like an audi and i cant afford it anyways
tbe- turbo back exhaust
cbe- catback exhaust
cai- cold air intake
ftw- for the win <--that took me song long to figure out i thought it was F*ck the world for a while.
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02 rex is gone.
I defected to an evo :)
I beg to differ you can ask DumDum our wrxpert who has equal length length headers and says still sounds like a boxer. And my friend just put on equal length and still sounds like a boxer. Don't believe everything you read or hear.
I put the Perrin Header on my STi and, yes it does retain the boxer sound at an idle, but when you get on it, it does have a different tone and is more high pitched. Personally with the set up I did to my STi, If I were to do it again I would not have done the header. It really didn't make that much of a difference except in the sound. That is only my opinion and some of you guys may say different. I am making a video, so when I finish it I will post it and you can then hear the difference.
As far as making your WRX as fast as an STi?? I also have an 03 WRX that is as fast and maybe a little faster than a stock STi. Mods are on the WRX: Perrin TBE, Perrin Down Pipe, Perrin Up-Pipe, VF39 STi Turbo, STi intercooler, STi injectors, Agency Power Fuel Rails, Greddy Profec B Spec II Boost Control, and TurboXS Utec. CFT Tuned it to 272awhp and 261ft lbs of tq. The injectors came out of my STi so they are only the 500 and not the 550 Pinks. Might have gotten more power with the 550's but I am still happy with the results. Your going to spend some $$$ one way or the other. Feel free to contact me for any questions.
^^ bro, u should be able to rape an stock STi. the STi stock puts down about 240 at the wheels stock. with a turboback and tune on a wrx SHOULD put you into that range. if you have a factory freak u can optain 240WHP no prob.
you cant tune for the turbulence the intake causes around the maf sensor. thats what throws the readings off. turbulence is random.
believe me, you can tune for the flow of air that is going through the intake. turbulence in an intake is quite predictable as the flow is a constant. the gains are minimal yes, but tell me why anyone would have an intake on their car whatsoever if you couldn't tune for an aftermarket intake.
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STi pilots spend all their time shifting trying to keep the car in the powerband instead of finding the correct line." can anyone say generalization. i know a couple of guys that drive stis that would beat any driver on this site on any type of course.
excuse me if i am misunderstanding your point, but are you saying you know someone who can shift faster with an sti tranny then anyone can with a wrx in a drag race per say?
To the original poster.... If you want to beat the STi straight line, go buy a SRT4...
The WRX/STi are not meant for the 1/4 mile..... Go to the track, not 1/4 mile and you will see where the WRX/STi shines...
With that being said, TBE and a good protune will put you past an STi straight line... I have seen a stage 2 protuned 06 wrx do 246 AWHP and 318 AWtq
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i was just comparing the 1/4 mile performance of both vehicles first before i move up to more difficult races like on a track. i am a beginner driver of an awd vehicle and am just starting out with easier stuff you know to get to know my car better. im still testing my car on off/on ramps and backroads to get a good feel for it too and i def need suspension work before i try more difficult racing on a track. but doing 0-60 in 5.01 seconds with only a cai only makes me wonder what potential it does have for the 1/4. plus i like the style and awd aspect of my wrx a billion times more than a dodge neon with a turbo
wrx's can be potent in the 1/4 if you build correctly for it. my friends srt4 is pushing 500hp vs my buddies wrx putting out 311hp in the quarter is a good race. one guy has to much power and no traction with turbo lag issues vs a wrx with no traction issues and a fast spooling turbo. the wrx's fastest time of the season vs the srt's - 12.8vs12.9
mind you, these guys are extremely good drivers, but their machines are built differently.
wrx's can be potent in the 1/4 if you build correctly for it. my friends srt4 is pushing 500hp vs my buddies wrx putting out 311hp in the quarter is a good race. one guy has to much power and no traction with turbo lag issues vs a wrx with no traction issues and a fast spooling turbo. the wrx's fastest time of the season vs the srt's - 12.8vs12.9
mind you, these guys are extremely good drivers, but their machines are built differently.
Not to be mean but that time sucks for 500 whp. Traction or not FWD will be quick (with some drag radials), hell my civic when it was at 530whp pulled constant 11.8-11.9 on bfg drag radials and hella shitty 60'. Slicks would be better to compare to awd but still. 500 vs 311 = bad driver. I do agree that the wrx is more of a track (autox or road race) built car, and I would love for mine to have 300awhp and handle
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I was just yanking on the STi drivers chain, I would be faster in an STi than my car, but I still wouldn't be able to catch that 89 Honda Civic hatchback - light weight is important in a class that limits tire width. I listen to STi drivers talk about the different gears they use in different parts of the course - after I shift to second, I leave it there 99% of the time. Just because it is a generalization doesn't mean it isn't generally true. People who buy STis tend to be power junkies who point and shoot.
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