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post #16 of 43 Old 09-22-2012, 11:39 AM
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What I'm seeing is for under 10 grand total, this kit will spit out numbers better than 15k builds.
Full Race's 1.5 scroll kit is $3,500 and that comes with a dual ball bearing Garrett. From what my source/Full Race vendor tells me, this kit will be around the same depending on which BW turbo you pick and accessories. So, under $5k and that's including fuel upgrades and the average $450 dyno tune session. What's even more appealing (this was the deal sealer for me) is lifetime warranty on the Full Race parts. Although, I may spend the extra cash and get the uppipe/downpipe Swaintech coated. My only con with this kit is that you have to use the Full Race V-band downpipe and uppipe. That pretty much locks me into Full Race, and possibly Borg Warner EFR series turbos. I am still uneasy about that type of commitment LOL. Thankfully, it's only the downpipe and uppipe so I could just keep what I have in case I ever wanted to switch back.

And Randy, I am sure by next year there will be some shiny new toy or kit that will be the new hotness.

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Full Race's 1.5 scroll kit is $3,500 and that comes with a dual ball bearing Garrett. From what my source/Full Race vendor tells me, this kit will be around the same depending on which BW turbo you pick and accessories. So, under $5k and that's including fuel upgrades and the average $450 dyno tune session.

And Randy, I am sure by next year there will be some shiny new toy or kit that will be the new hotness.
True, but since the buyer of this will have to stick with Full Race due to the up and down. They will probably produce a new bolt up replacement turbo, in fact, with all the people wanting them, it would be stupid not to have many swappable options processed.

I wasn't sold yet on another company for ups and downs anyway. The only piece of exhaust I'm sold on for my new sti is the cat back

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Same! Love the way my Inivida G200 sounds. I will let you guys know more when I know (before it's posted in the NASIOC thread, of course).

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I'm reading the post. The impressive turbo that comes out in 2013 is the turbo that everyone is raving about and that's what I was referring to. I wouldn't want to swap out the turbo after a year of having a new turbo. Seems pointless....when you can just get it done all at once and tune for it once. Not twice...if you're using a protuner. Again...500 wtq, 400wtq, 500 crank hp, or 400whp. Its all going to make a stock engine go terminal on a dd. I don't care how nice the 2008+ engines seem. Especially a Gen 2 engine will go off like a gernade with that much power....unless you're a really experienced tuner and baby the piss out of the car more than you push it. Why would you do that if you're putting that much of power adders on your car? Maybe I'm just speaking out of my arse again and I don't know what I'm talking about.

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The hp difference between the turbo coming out in 2013 and the turbo available now (6758) is 50hp. The turbos are actually interchangeable, so you wouldn't need to swap the turbo just the guts if/when you decide to upgrade. With your statement, increasing the timing and boost puts wear and tear on the motor someway, somehow. It's the risk we take when we mod our vehicles. I certainly think with the correct tune, mods, and pump gas that the car will be absolutely fine in the sub 400awhp range. It's not so much a power adder, or horsepower queen for me. If I wanted that I would slap on a 20g and not look back. It's the fact that this turbo delivers damn near stock spool AND the power it puts down is a happy/medium for what I am looking for.

My opinion is what's the point of modding the vehicle if not to push it?

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Alright, I'll just sit here and enjoy the show.

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Said it before and I'll say it again. We need a popcorn eating emoticon.

Sandra, not everyone wants to push their car to the limits. Sometimes if not all the time people want just a more fun ride/drive. My 2¢ worth

$ sometimes plays in as a factor as well.

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And that is perfectly fine. That is why I prefaced my statement with "My opinion..." I am not new to the car game, and certainly not new to modding cars. I know the response I want from my WRX, and have seen this set up provide such results thus far. I am excited about it, and will most likely make the purchase.

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I like the looks of that setup, but I love the looks of the KillerB low mount setup.

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I saw that! Here is the thread for reference - LOW MOUNT TURBO KIT - Prototype - Killer B Motorsport - NASIOC

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I'm digging that set up too, but I just like the OP better by a nad....I mean tad

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I just think ignoring professional tuners general guidelines for when engine work should be done...isn't such a good idea. One of those tuners Yimi is actually breaking their own guideline with these turbos though. So, idk if there is something different with the 2008 EJs with the nitrid crank making a big difference or what. But, again...this is just me talking out of my ass over here. I can find the linky if you want.

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Am I missing something?
I wouldn't skip the pros here. I would purchase the kit and all the fuel goodies to go along with it... Pump, 1000cc injectors(if not a bit bigger) and other stuff(already have an extra GS3 port laying around) so on and so forth. Than drop the car at Chads or IAG.( both great shops) and have them install and tune.
I could easily do the work myself, but wouldn't want the risk of that road trip F'n up my car.

So what exactly is skipping the tuner here Kirt?
I'm a bit lost as to why you speak of this???

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^The tuner will/should send you a limp map to make it to the shop....

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