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#16 Old 02-06-2010, 07:48 AM
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I'm sure some of the fluids have to be disposed of properly, and i doubt the local trash man appreciates trans and brake fluid in the trash can. Plus, I've heard that the dealer diff fluids are better than most aftermarket fluids. So, I run that.
I save my fluids in two 5 gallon icing buckets that I picked up for free from my local grocery store's bakery and I take them to the Recycling Center in Frederick when they fill up. After washing them out, of course, one bucket is only used for antifreeze/coolant and the other is for used motor oil, brake fluid, trans/rear diff fluid since those can all be mixed together. The Recycling Center has huge drums that you dump the liquids into and they dispose of them properly for free

...and about the dealer lube being better than most aftermarket fluids... I think maybe somebody is yanking your chain. No offense, but I'd like to see proof of that. Sounds to me like maybe one of the dealership employees started a rumor and word got out that way, but who knows. If the dealership gear oil is anything like their regular motor oil, there should be plenty of aftermarket options that are superior on a molecular level.

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ok thanks for the link, i appreciate the info. I guess then i will just go to the $500 place cause that is what they said they will perform on my vehicle.

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If you have basic mechanic knowledge, tools, and a place to do it you can save alot of money by doing it yourself. Thats what I did. I did not do the brake fluid though because I want to wait till I get my ss brake lines.

Motor oil/5qt.@$8-$9ea.=$45
Oil filter&drain plug gasket/$10
Manual transmission/front diff. fluid (the same thing in a manual)/4qt.@$9ea.=$36
Air filter/K&N pannel filter=$50
Coolant/$28
Cooling system conditioner/$4
Brake fluid/?

You could probably do it yourself for about $200
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I could do it by myself, iv done all my other mods on my own, its just now i dont have the room or time to do it on my own so i dont mind paying suby to do it for me!!!

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Gotcha! That way you also have the assurance it will be done right and if not it will be backed up by your subaru dealer.
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Personally, I'd do a little at a time until it's all done - even if that means working on it for a couple of hours late at night for a week or more. I think working on my car can be therapeutic... when I know what I'm doing... and nothing goes wrong...

And on that note, I'm starting to collect supplies to do my 60k maintenance

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For me, no matter what it is, working on a car is therapy. Just takes all the stress of the day right out. Yes, I do tend to cuss and get pissed when stuff doesn't go right on or a bolt is stuck, but I still love doing it. It also helps that I grew up with a dad that does most of the major maintenance himself and and uncle that tore my first car apart with me. Sometimes me not being afraid to do the work myself backfires, but usually I learn from the first rough attempt and then the next go around is smooth sailing (changing pads/rotors on my 98 grand cherokee, that was an effing disaster of a first time brake job).

In my defense though two bolts snapped off and I had to get the caliper drilled and tapped out at a shop. Drove to the shop with no rear brakes and calipers bungeed to the axle to keep them from flopping around. Almost forgot, sockets in between the pads so the pistons didn't pop out when I hit the brakes.

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Just for reference, allvolwrx's cost estimate is just about right on the money. Here's a breakdown from when I did my 30k service: 30K Maintenance = How much did it co$t you?

If you subtract the cost of some of the unnecessary stuff that I didn't have to buy (brake lines, brake bleeder, expensive ass spark plugs that I replaced with stock plugs a few thousand miles later), the total ends up being pretty close to $200. I'm hoping to spend about that on my 60k service, with the additional cost of brake pads, drive belts, and "normal" spark plugs this time

I'll probably do a breakdown for my 60k service too eventually

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So what service should i actually get done. I know that i want:

Tranny fluid
rear diff fluid
coolent flush and fluid
brake flush and fluid
Don't forget this oil change. These things are exactly what you want to have done.

My tranny and diff change was $120 for Motul synthetic at P&L.
Coolant was $60.
Brake flush was $100.

It's important to note that the 30k charge from Subaru only includes inspecting the rear diff. and trans fluid, not changing it.

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Yeah I find it therapeutic as well. Plus I like to know if anything goes wrong (because sometimes no matter how good mechanic you are it will). If someone els does it you never know what they might have done in a problematic situation while pressed for time. Plus the saving $300 or so helps alot!
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I save my fluids in two 5 gallon icing buckets that I picked up for free from my local grocery store's bakery and I take them to the Recycling Center in Frederick when they fill up. After washing them out, of course, one bucket is only used for antifreeze/coolant and the other is for used motor oil, brake fluid, trans/rear diff fluid since those can all be mixed together. The Recycling Center has huge drums that you dump the liquids into and they dispose of them properly for free

...and about the dealer lube being better than most aftermarket fluids... I think maybe somebody is yanking your chain. No offense, but I'd like to see proof of that. Sounds to me like maybe one of the dealership employees started a rumor and word got out that way, but who knows. If the dealership gear oil is anything like their regular motor oil, there should be plenty of aftermarket options that are superior on a molecular level.
More power to you John. I don't have the patience to slowly change all my fluids over a weeks time and I don't exactly know where my local recycling center is. If there is one within a reasonable distance.

As far as the fluids are concerned. Subaru doesn't use junk diff and tranny fluid. IHMO Redline and some of that other expensive crap is over rated. Look at Uncle Scottys Cocktail. I'd use Andrewtech's Cocktail or Motul diff fluid. But, I'm happy with having my LSDs having the Genuine Subaru Diff and Trans fluids. They do inspections, when they drain and refill. I'm not naive enough to let them bully me into bs repairs or replacements. I told them to shove it, when they told me I needed a $2,000 brake job. My dad and myself did the work for $240ish dollars in just new pads.

Not trying to snap at you. But, it makes me happy to have a inspection of the diffs and not have to deal with a few issues. If they say there's a issue, I ask them to show me. If they do un-authorized work to my car. Then they'll catch hell.

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Don't forget this oil change. These things are exactly what you want to have done.

My tranny and diff change was $120 for Motul synthetic at P&L.
Coolant was $60.
Brake flush was $100.

It's important to note that the 30k charge from Subaru only includes inspecting the rear diff. and trans fluid, not changing it.
My dealer flushed and filled all fluids at 30k and 60k w/ inspections. But, that's just my experiences with my local dealership. They billed me for fluids and i could feel the car was running on clean fluids. So, I doubt my dealer just inspected it.

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My dealer flushed and filled all fluids at 30k and 60k w/ inspections. But, that's just my experiences with my local dealership. They billed me for fluids and i could feel the car was running on clean fluids. So, I doubt my dealer just inspected it.
That's cool. Frankly, I wouldn't even trust my dealer to inspect the fluid. I had them changed at P&L, and going forward I'll be having DS1 do it. They just re-opened about 20 minutes away from me. Dylan had an open house on Sunday and I won a Motul trans. flush. Since I just had it done two weeks ago, I'll probably just take an oil change.

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Ha, Free Motul is better than paying for it. , but cool man. If my dealer was shady, I'd go a different route. But, they aren't so bad for the service of that stuff. A 15% discount wasn't a bad deal either.

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Don't forget this oil change. These things are exactly what you want to have done.

My tranny and diff change was $120 for Motul synthetic at P&L.
Coolant was $60.
Brake flush was $100.

It's important to note that the 30k charge from Subaru only includes inspecting the rear diff. and trans fluid, not changing it.
Oh yea oil change is a must too. It is time for that.

I talked to my suby dealers and they said that they do change those fluids not just inspect them. Also i am going to go in and just tell them what i want replaced instead of doing the "30k service" this way i am only paying for what i want done. And when they are changing the fluid they will inspect as well.

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Good deal. Let us know how it goes and feels after the change. My car always seems to move a little bit smoother down the road.

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