MISS fire ..HELP PLEASE

JiveMasterT · 07-05-2006, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by brokenarrow

SO i am gonna un hook the
HKS and the SAFC...
and hope the it fixes the problem.
I have been through all the wireing and its all good....i had to tape some connections up better..there were some wires sticking just a little on a few wires

I thought you took that stuff out already?!

Get that SAFC and HKS crap out of your car now! Hanging on by a few wires? Were they not soldered in? Did they do the ol' "Splice, twist, and tape"? That's like the worst way to do things ever.

Get all of the electronics out of your car. For diagnosing a problem like this, it is important to get all factors out of the system. Do you know anyone locally who could lend you their ECU? Could you maybe just "rent" one from your local dealer (buy it then return it after you test... don't know if you can return an ECU though)? Just some ideas to toss around.

Also, I've noticed that you do not have bigger injectors at this time so it is not nessicary to run any sort of engine management to keep your car running. As long as you don't go around spooling that turbo all the way up then you should be fine. Also, take the MBC off the car and let the factory Boost Control Solenoid control boost if you haven't already.

brokenarrow · 07-05-2006, 11:29 PM

No thay soldered the wires..just did a kinna shitty job of tapeing...some of the wires were sticking out of the tape....only one or 2 wires...and there was nothing thay could have really touched..no metal or other wire......but its still possiable...
I am takeing the SAFC and HKS out tommorow..

Iif it doesnt fix the problem ill call the dealer and see if i can buy and return the ECU .......... this sucks!!

JiveMasterT · 07-05-2006, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by brokenarrow

No thay soldered the wires..just did a kinna shitty job of tapeing...some of the wires were sticking out of the tape....only one or 2 wires...and there was nothing thay could have really touched..no metal or other wire......but its still possiable...
I am takeing the SAFC and HKS out tommorow..

Iif it doesnt fix the problem ill call the dealer and see if i can buy and return the ECU .......... this sucks!!

Yeah I mean just tell them you're having a problem with your car and you would like to purchase and ECU to see if that fixes it and if it doesn't, you want to know their return policy.

brokenarrow · 07-06-2006, 11:03 PM

OK
HKS FCD IS OFF
SAFC2 is OFF
car still runs like crap! no difference at all

I called the dealer and asked if i can buy and return the ECU if it dont work for me ....thay said if you plug it in YOU CAN NOT Return it.!!

SO i mean ...what are my options now.?????

If i unplug the ecu or rest it the car runs good till i turn it off and restart it ..the 2nd time it is started it runs like crap and the cel comes on..
the 1st time the cel will flash if i REV the motor but just driveing or even raceing the cel wont flash ...( this is only the 1st time its started after the reset...)

So now what?? I am out of idas!!! I have no clue what to do ...only thing i can thin kto do is take it to a dealer ..and let them have at it.....

what do you guys this i should try next....??????????

brokenarrow · 07-07-2006, 12:35 AM

well after some reading is this thread
http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...9&page=2&pp=25

It looks like my ECU is bad ..this guy has the SAME problem as i do ..except its CYL #1 ..

And i am guessing i ###### didnt break it but i am gonna have to pay for it...

Does ANYONE KNOW WHERE TO GET A ECU FOR LESS THAN 600..

MAN that sucks ...I could have bought a AP for 600....this really sucks..

But still SHOULD i take the car to the dealer and have them look at it ( witch will cost me 90.00 ) and then + the ecu.

or do i just buy the ecu.....??????

brokenarrow · 07-15-2006, 09:14 PM

OK i hope you guys are still reading this....### ..i am so lost ...

I have gotten all electronics out of the car ie hks and Safc 2 ...THE car is ALMOST STOCk except for the exhaust and the 16g turbo...thats i am taking out on tuesday ..### its blowing oil.( bad oil seal)...and i am putting the stock one back in...

I have done --- to fix the proble to no avail :

changed coils
changes spark plugs
swaped injectors
NEW ECU
checked all wireing that has been spliced to the ecu
fixed the wire that i shorted out on the throttle body

I have NO clue what to do next...I am gonna go out again in a minute to go over the wires again with a meter and see if any of them have high resistence..( but i doubt thay will )
I have ordered a COBB AP with NEXT DAY AIR ...so maby ill get it by monday ...depending on how long i have to wait on cobb.( anyone know how long the wait is if any for a 2006 wrx ?? )

So please I welcome ANY suggestions .......... I WAS THINKING THAT MABY ITS THE SENSOR THAT WAS CONNECTED TO THE WHITE WITR THAT I SHORTED THAT MIGHT BE DOING THIS ( but then i think it would do it to all of the cyl's )...or MABY THE BAD TURBO..??

please help

bigbadbuddha · 07-15-2006, 09:20 PM

Waht cel's are you throwing????

JiveMasterT · 07-15-2006, 10:04 PM

Under the dash there is this green wire... do you have it plugged in?

brokenarrow · 07-15-2006, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by bigbadbuddha

Waht cel's are you throwing????

P 304 is the only code that i am getting ....thats it!

ANd what green connector...the one on the passenger side or driver side..

DRIVER side = dont think so, I have never plugged it in

Passenger side = YES, I didnt plug it in ...i think it comes this way....not sure

SOOO i went over ALL the connections at the ECU again...thay are all Perfect...good as can be....so my problem lies elswhere.....

bigbadbuddha · 07-15-2006, 11:57 PM

That's cylinder 4 misfire.

JiveMasterT · 07-15-2006, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brokenarrow

P 304 is the only code that i am getting ....thats it!

ANd what green connector...the one on the passenger side or driver side..

DRIVER side = dont think so, I have never plugged it in

Passenger side = YES, I didnt plug it in ...i think it comes this way....not sure

SOOO i went over ALL the connections at the ECU again...thay are all Perfect...good as can be....so my problem lies elswhere.....

Driver side, don't plug it in. You definitely do not want to plug it in.

need2boost · 07-16-2006, 12:15 AM

do a compression test on the motor, just so you can rule out the possibility of a bad ring on cly #4 from running lean. thats the problem with SAFC's you run the risk of running lean. better to do a compression test and be safe then have to worry about that.

brokenarrow · 07-16-2006, 12:15 AM

Yes I know its a cyl 4 misfire

and nothing i have done has changed it swaping plugs/coil packs/ injectors all still # 4

AND I have done a Compression check ...All 4 cylenders are Perfect!!!

AND i just went and looked and

DRIVER side = NOT plugged in

Passenger side = Plugged in..

i donno whats wrong .....I mean this car BUCKS BAD sometimes ...and others it just misses and hesatiates

bigbadbuddha · 07-16-2006, 12:25 AM

I'd say take it to the dealer.. You got me confused to hel with that now????

brokenarrow · 07-16-2006, 12:31 AM

haha...did i confuse you ...Or are my problems confuseing you ..hehe

??????????

and yah i guess i am gonna have to take it to the Stealership ...but thats gonna have to wait untill after tuesday... tuesday my buddy at a shop is taking my 16g turbo off and installing my STOCK turbo.. ( the 16g is Blowing alot of oil anyways..gotta fix the seal )...

SO i have untill then to TRY to fix it..............................

... I already went in there once with my FMIC on and my BOV and MBC and thay wouldnt cover it under warrenty ....and the guy told me to take all the stuff off and thay would do it under warrenty .....SO i hope he was not just blowing smoke up my asss...### he already informed Subrau of my mods ......SO ..I wonder even with ALLLLL of the mods OFF ...will it be under warrenty ?????????