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XSellR8nInMyWRX 07-25-2010 06:36 PM

Bought 2004 WRX today very confused about power. HELP
 
Ok so never owned a subaru before, never even owned a turbo car before. Needless to say I am confused.

Car has sti injectors 556 or somethings, walboro fuel pump, stock turbo just changed back from 18G. Car had front mount now its stock, has a cobb access port turbo timer and boost gauge ACT street/touring clutch, stock exhaust. HKS SSQV.
This is what is happening.
Car seems to hesitate a little from stop going into 1st. Then when you accelerate turbo spools like crazy but no power, car hardly pulls at all, sounds like BOV is leaking.( hks ssqv) shift and at 4000 falls on its face. Has all stock exhaust. every gear no power. You can hear spooling and see a little boost build but around .06 bar it loses all power and the BOV never even goes off. EVER. In 5th absolutely no power and if you downshift the car will spool but fall on it face and barely accelerate.

What the hell is going on?
Give me a check list of stuff to start checking I am so confused.

Thanks

Chase 07-25-2010 06:41 PM

You probably have a boost/vac leak. Could be where they reconnected the BOV ie, the gasket, or they may not have tightened all the clamps around the intercooler. There's an inlet side on the bottom, and a out side that feeds into the throttle body/intake manifold front and center. I'd take it off. It's easy, 20 minute job if that. See if any of the hoses weren't clamped down tight. Plus with it out of the way, you'll have a clearer view to see other hoses. Just start wiggling stuff around and see if anything is off or loose.

BTW, did you not test drive it first? I've never bought a sport compact without really, REALLY putting my foot into it.

XSellR8nInMyWRX 07-25-2010 11:15 PM

[quote=Chase;248216]You probably have a boost/vac leak. Could be where they reconnected the BOV ie, the gasket, or they may not have tightened all the clamps around the intercooler. There's an inlet side on the bottom, and a out side that feeds into the throttle body/intake manifold front and center. I'd take it off. It's easy, 20 minute job if that. See if any of the hoses weren't clamped down tight. Plus with it out of the way, you'll have a clearer view to see other hoses. Just start wiggling stuff around and see if anything is off or loose.

BTW, did you not test drive it first? I've never bought a sport compact without really, REALLY putting my foot into it.[/quote]

Thank you
for all of your insight. I will look into all of this and repost my results.
And as for the test drive it is very complicated.

newtothegame 07-25-2010 11:19 PM

While you are at it (checking for leaks) get rid of that crappy BOV. Try and find a stock BPV or look for an aftermekrt BPV. That BOV will do nothing but cause problems also.

XSellR8nInMyWRX 07-25-2010 11:24 PM

It sounds like the boost is leaking right behind the steering wheel when I am driving. Any ideas?

XSellR8nInMyWRX 07-26-2010 12:16 AM

[quote=newtothegame;248233]While you are at it (checking for leaks) get rid of that crappy BOV. Try and find a stock BPV or look for an aftermekrt BPV. That BOV will do nothing but cause problems also.[/quote]

what do you recommend?

jdowrx 07-26-2010 12:59 AM

You should just get the stock bov. You can go on the classifieds on Nasioc and find one for cheap.
Also, I dont know how much of an affect having sti injectors on an otherwise stock wrx would be, but its probably not helping. You said the car came with the accessport, what map are you running?

How does the boost look on your gauge?

newtothegame 07-26-2010 02:13 AM

As far as BPV, like mentioned look for a stock one (I have one, but not in the states to ship it, sorry). Or if you are looking run an aftermarket one look at the Cobb XLE (I run it), the Perrin (I dont really recommend, I had too many issues with it), GFB (go fast bits), Forge, or TurboSmart. All make recirculating (like the stock unit), or hybrids (can be ran like stock, 50/50 (or around that nature) or full atmospheric).

XSellR8nInMyWRX 07-26-2010 09:41 AM

I was told that the cobb was uninstalled. And that it was back to stock.

RcrsWetDream 07-26-2010 10:49 AM

If the bpv isn't working is there a line from the intake manifold running to the top of the bpv? It's a pretty small vacuum line, but it is the one that actuates the valve.

Mine popped off and I couldn't boost, and my bpv wouldn't go off, causing compressor surge. Took forever to find it as I had to take the top mount off and discovered the line had popped off the intake manifold. It was still plugged into the bpv so it wasn't obvious at all.

mosc 07-26-2010 11:25 AM

I'd bet he improperly installed the stock turbo and didn't care enough to figure out how.

basco 07-26-2010 11:32 AM

it's because you are not tuned to be running the STi injectors, put the stock ones in and you'll be fine

XSellR8nInMyWRX 07-26-2010 02:15 PM

Ok so today looked at everything at concluded that the rubber elbow that is hooked to the turbo output is after market and is to big for the stock turbo so I messed with it and tightened up the clamp a bit more. I swapped the BOV for a hks style ebay special that was adjustable. I also added some oil to the BOV rubber gasket to ensure no leakage.
Result the first 3 gears have improved dramatically, but still not right. When you hit 5k rpm it falls on its face. After 60mph NO power at all. If I am in 5th and floor it boost wont hold and wont go past .05 bar. Can only accelerate if I let of the gas which is odd. When boost hits car slows down and will stutter also leads to some black smoke out the back.

I do not have the stock injectors, I would like to upgrade the power, but I wanted to get it right before wasting money on it. I dont want to buy stock injectors if I will need to upgrade later anyway. Can someone advise me on some steps to take.
I need a stock BPV and a stock turbo to intercooler rubber elbow right now.
Thanks

basco 07-26-2010 04:05 PM

get a bloody tune...if you cant find someone you trust I can give you the number of my buddy that goes to UM who tunes his own WRX

XSellR8nInMyWRX 07-26-2010 04:32 PM

[quote=basco;248288]get a bloody tune...if you cant find someone you trust I can give you the number of my buddy that goes to UM who tunes his own WRX[/quote]

Sounds great put me in contact with him ASAP thanks I live 1 mile from campus.


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