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zmanky 06-17-2013 11:20 PM

2002 WRX Won't Start
 
Working on a friends car, new to Subaru. She popped the timing belt, decided to do a JDM motor replacment , 2001 2.0l EJ20. Used intake from car. all sensors from original car. All kinds of mods, lightened flywheel APC pop off, Front OXY delete (resistor),Perin etc.. Motor will not run, occasional backfire, I have tried the key on/off three times. Traced all wiring to verify no pinched wires. Tried to start without MAF hooked up. Have fuel, spark, air, compression. Any ideas, I am leaning towards ECM failure. One ground wire broke that bolts to firewall, unknown where it is supposed to connect.
Thanks,
Rickie in KY

Brockton 06-18-2013 01:06 AM

Sounds like a nightmare, hope you get it working.

pzr2874 06-18-2013 07:20 AM

So a JDM motor with the factory ECU?

zmanky 06-18-2013 07:34 AM

Original ECM
 
Original ECM from car. I have reset it, by disconneting battery, pressing brake pedal.

psinuse 06-18-2013 07:21 PM

[quote=pzr2874;313586]So a JDM motor with the factory ECU?[/quote]

Oh come on now what's the worst that can happen?

[quote=zmanky]Working on a friends car, new to Subaru. She popped the timing belt, decided to do a JDM motor replacment , 2001 2.0l EJ20. Used intake from car. all sensors from original car. All kinds of mods, lightened flywheel APC pop off, Front OXY delete (resistor),Perin etc.. Motor will not run, occasional backfire, I have tried the key on/off three times. Traced all wiring to verify no pinched wires. Tried to start without MAF hooked up. Have fuel, spark, air, compression. Any ideas, I am leaning towards ECM failure. One ground wire broke that bolts to firewall, unknown where it is supposed to connect.
Thanks,
Rickie in KY [/quote]

Okay first things first. Do away with the front O2 delete, that is a bad idea and can cause a very rich state and also other sorts of issues. APC pop off go back to stock. I'm leaning toward other issues besides the ECU...Try and put the car as close to stock as possible and it will be easier to diagnose what is wrong with it.
Secondly, What year is her car to begin with? I might have the backwards...WTF

zmanky 06-18-2013 09:32 PM

car is an 2002, can't go back, it is the way it is. Car was running fine before timing popped. the car is basically the same, I just changed the block. I am thinking it is something simple, I just do not know where to look at this point. Think newbe mistake. I have been wrenching for years, foreign and domestic, just can't figure this one out.

psinuse 06-19-2013 05:07 AM

So you just changed the block and reused the old heads?

zmanky 06-19-2013 07:14 AM

No, the old heads were damaged, I used the block and heads. swaped all sensors, and reused the intake from the original.

pzr2874 06-19-2013 11:01 AM

Search the ECU and JDM motor... NASIOC has a ton on it.

my 2¢ worth.

psinuse 06-19-2013 02:40 PM

Back fire means either the timing is wrong or the crank sensor/cam sensor is bad...

zmanky 06-19-2013 02:56 PM

I have used the original sensors, question, do all 2.0l motors use the same crank and cam pulleys? The motor I installed, had a single coil pack with wires, my2002 motor has individual coils. Could the pulleys be different? Timing has not been changed, but I will inspect it.

psinuse 06-19-2013 05:37 PM

..and there is the problem....

zmanky 06-20-2013 07:52 AM

Psinuse,
please be more specific, i reused the old wiring from the car, the jdm2.0 motor had all the same sensors in the same places. Are you saying timing is wrong because of a specific pulley? Are you saying that the single vs individual coil packs is the problem? More info please

psinuse 06-21-2013 09:41 AM

The coil on plug is the problem. You are trying to use the wrong coil system on that motor that and the ECU doesn't know what's going on.

psinuse 06-21-2013 09:42 AM

Which in turn causes your cam and crank sensors to not function properly and also the timing would be off...


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