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thekamikaze kid 06-25-2013 03:36 PM

b4 i do a major upgrade...
 
so heres my situation:
i currently have a cbe and perrin sri on an untuned car.
I plan to put on a up, dp, 3 port ebcs, and fuel pump, with a road tune.
problem is the tuner has to come in from out of state to tune, he comes in when there a few cars that need tunes, i am not suer how frequent this happens yet, and even the shop i have to go to is far away. so my question is this:
if anything breaks do i have to bring it back to get another tune? even if i put the same part back on?

pzr2874 06-25-2013 04:31 PM

whoa.. .slow down.

You have an AP right? This isn't an OpenSource tuner? Meaning the tuner will slap the tune on your AP.

With an OS tune, you are at the tuners mercy.

Try to explain it better.... Define "breaks"... Do you mean if your UP/DP/3port/FP dies.... do you have to get another tune? No... just replace what's broke.

thekamikaze kid 06-25-2013 04:58 PM

i do not have an ap. i figured id have a pro do it for me. all i know is taht is a road tune and the charge is like 250. when i mean "if something breaks" like say if i have to replace a turbo or something will i need another tune? id most likely have all the performance parts put on at a performance shop, and all other stuff like if my turbo goes to a local repair shop. any help would be awesome.

pzr2874 06-25-2013 05:17 PM

As long as your charger isn't on it's way out NOW.... and you replace with the[B] same part it was tuned with[/B], you should be GTG... still think you should get an AP....

thekamikaze kid 06-25-2013 05:24 PM

thanks again pzr2874! only thing is with the ap, ap=550 and road tune=250, and im broke now. lol

thekamikaze kid 06-25-2013 06:31 PM

also if u guys have any advice for this upgrade i would be more than happy to hear it, since this is my first major upgrade on any car ever.

PROImportTuners 06-25-2013 06:31 PM

Cobb has of the shelf maps for your car that should be able to run your setup pretty well without the need for a road tune. You can of course get a tailor made map that will be exactly for your unique setup, but if you want to drive the car safely before getting a custom tune, the Cobb maps usually work very well.

You might even be happy with an OTS map and decide that you don't need the road tune.

thekamikaze kid 06-25-2013 06:47 PM

i checked with cobb and perrin to see if they had maps for my perrin short ram intake and they didnt have one for my year. originally ib was just going to buy a cobb and flash to stage 1 also i do not have the stock airbox because i bought the car with it on. i did a lot of research and figured my setup was just about bulletproof. but i am still a newb at this.

Brockton 06-25-2013 07:35 PM

I would do what you can to get a safe tune on the car, then save some money to hide away for an "oh s***!" fund. Especially having an older bugeye, its good have money put back for basic maintenance and repairs. I bought my car about 2 months ago and have already had to fix about 4 boost leak issues, replace front rotors and breaks, change engine oil, tranny, and diff fluid. Its better to have a car that is running than a car that has a lot of bolt ons but is broke down. =/

Nathan21 06-26-2013 01:46 AM

[quote=Brockton;316098]Its better to have a car that is running than a car that has a lot of bolt ons but is broke down. =/[/quote]

I could not agree with you more but on the other hand, when that car with all the bolt-ons run, it would be a blast to drive!!

thekamikaze kid 06-26-2013 12:52 PM

well, u only live once! ive had my car fer like a year and nothing major has gone wrong with it. hopefully she holds together for a few more years anyway. thanks fer the insight guys!:rocks:

brfatal 06-27-2013 10:05 AM

Perrin's intakes absolutely require custom tuning to have on the car. They are some of the worst on the market at skewing MAF readings.

thekamikaze kid 06-27-2013 12:30 PM

arrrrg! i bought the car with it and dont have the stock air box. perrin insists that i didnt need a tune with the factory map, although everyone else disagrees. also it is a pita to clean. it gets dirty quick. would a dirty filter cause a lag in acceleration? im getting a delay when i push the accelerator when im in fourth. not sure if this is normal bc this is my first turbo car.

brfatal 06-27-2013 01:15 PM

They use foam filters which aren't the best idea for automotive use either. Great for dirt bikes because they hold more debris before clogging, but bad for cars since they let so much thru the filter, especially because it's so thin. If you hold the filter up to the light you'll see what I mean.

Foam
[IMG]http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/hks_res.jpg[/IMG]

Oiled cotton gauze
[IMG]http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/k&n_res.jpg[/IMG]

Steel mesh
[IMG]http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/blitz_res.jpg[/IMG]

Dry mesh
[IMG]http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/filters_test/2/apex_res.jpg[/IMG]

thekamikaze kid 06-28-2013 03:40 PM

bump....
what could be causing this acceleration issue? need to figure out b4 i mod the car. !Cry!


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