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Why would you still fail the visual with a catted DP? I have a hi-flow cat, and have passed emissions for PA. Mine is also a daily, and I didn't feel like wanting to smell like gas or having black smoke clouds during WOT. I am sure my thought process will change once I actually upgrade my turbo set up.
From what I have read and the consensus here in Co it won't pass the visual because they consider all aftermarket DP's off-road use only. Right now I'm looking at buying a used Cobb Catted DP and he has never passed with it on, he switches. However, I'm thinking of still getting a catted because of what mosc said, "When you drive catless, the person behind you (and likely the person behind them) get to smell your exhaust. If you are not a juvenile d-bag, you'll put a cork in it. Maybe you want me to look at your car and scoff at how immature you are. If so, go catless.", thanks by the way. Also, it would be pretty hypocritical of me since I try to be kind on the environment. Catted also allows me to at least play dumb. Thanks for the comments.
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Sorry for the attitude. I take out my frustration for "the tuner scene" on new people sometimes because you haven't made the mistakes yet that others have. Coming on here and asking questions, learning, and trying to be respectful of those around you is already a welcome change of pace though so thank you for that. We pride ourselves around here on being nice folks, even to those with catless exhausts, glad I didn't scare you off.

You should look for an inspection shop that also works on sports cars. Many of them will care that you're catted but won't care if it's aftermarket. Generally outside of California you can use a catted aftermarket exhaust unless the shop is really draconian. Some shops won't care about anything...

Also, cats do fail but they're also made of precious metals. Failed cats are still worth about $100. It's not throw away money.

Another point about enviornment stuff is that cats are a double edged sword. They remove nitrous oxide which all but elimited the threat of acid rain and they remove carbon monoxide (smog) which made living in downtown cities far less of a health hazard. They have, however, significantly raised the CO2 footprint of our cars (they convert CO->CO2, adding oxygen from the air). So we're killing ourselves more gradually I guess.

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have you thought about opensource instead of a cobb ap?
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have you thought about opensource instead of a cobb ap?
No I haven't but it might not be and idea since I won't be doing a lot of mods after the first initial ones, is that the way to go if that's the case?

Oh and thanks mosc
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When you drive catless, the person behind you (and likely the person behind them) get to smell your exhaust. If you are not a juvenile d-bag, you'll put a cork in it. Maybe you want me to look at your car and scoff at how immature you are. If so, go catless.
How come I didn't get scoffed last month? No fair!

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So I found what looks like to be a reputable tuner here close to me and they are offering this, "We also offer a free dyno baseline for new Cobb AP customers! The Cobb AccessPORT is a great way to go from light modifications to 500 WHP craziness. I am happy to announce that all customers who buy from me are welcome to let me install their new Accessport on my dyno, I will provide 3 baseline before the installation, and 3 after". Now they are selling the Cobb AP at the retail price of $595 and I can get an "unmarried" one on craigs for $450 so is it worth it to buy from them and let them install it and get some dyno time. What if I want to put a DP on, do I see if they can do it or install myself then take it to them without it being tuned, it's about a 25 mile drive. Any opinions would be appreciated. Thanks.

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The Boost Creep Ltd - Dyno Tuning and Automotive Services in Longmont Colorado
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Harvey is well known. Get with him.

You can install it and then drive it to him. Just stay out of boost. OR... buy the AP, install the DP and then take it to him. Talk to him though.

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I think I will just give them a call or just stop by there and see what they say. If they tune my car isn't that worth the $150 I would be saving by buying the AP on craigs, just seems like a no brainer to me. I just didn't know if it would be worth their time if I didn't have any mods yet cause I can flash to stage 1 with the AP, I doubt there is much difference between the Cobb OTS Stage 1 map and their stage one. However if I'm am wrong then someone correct me please. The only other thing I was going to do right away was the silencer delete and a drop-in filter. I might hold off on the DP for now. Thanks for the reply.

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On the contrary, there is quite a big difference between an OTS map and a "pro-tuner" tune.

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On the contrary, there is quite a big difference between an OTS map and a "pro-tuner" tune.
See I have been reading about that for the past 30 min and it seems that the protune would be better especially since the tune is somewhat customized and since I live up at 4900 ft it might a good idea to have them do it. Since they are reputable I'm just going to go with that option since I can pay $595, keep the AP and get dyno time for a tune. Sounds good to me.
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On the contrary, there is quite a big difference between an OTS map and a "pro-tuner" tune.
Stage one. Stage 2 OTS/custom tune will be a big difference.
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Any smoothing is a bonus.... MAYBE not for power....

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If you're getting a custom tune, you don't need the AP. You can just get an open source tune flashed to your ECU and save the $595. Tunes usually cost about $300, so you'll get a better tune and save some money without the AP.

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IF they tune without the AP. There are a few around this nexk of the woods.

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