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STi short shifter vs Kartboy

i was lookin at getting a short throw shifter for my 04 wrx. the shifts arent really that long as is...but i see kartboy has just a new shifter lever...and subaru offers a whole assembly. andthe kartboy is considerably cheaper....says reduces shifts by 40%..anyone know the advantage of goin with the STi assembly vs the Kartboy? thanks!

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I really don't know anything about the STi short shifter but I did install the Kartboy as soon as I bought my wrx. I love it. It really reduces the distance and it was easy to install. Like I said I don't know anything about the STi but I do know the Kartboy is nice.
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i think buying a "shorter" short shifter is absolutley stupid... and pointless but an cobb "short throw" shifter which actually shortens the the throw which is less movement in the shifter... just read it you'll love it over an kartyboy.. here http://cobbtuning.com/products/?id=2342
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that looks just like a fancy version of kartboy...just looks like u can make the shifter shorter or longer....its still just a "shorter" version of the stock one from what i see

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The factory short shifter is a whole shift linkage setup. That is why it is so expensive. The Kartboy shifter is nice.
There are a bunch of options out there. Personally I would go with either the IxizConcept's version 2 or the Go Fast Bits Short shifter.

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i think buying a "shorter" short shifter is absolutley stupid... and pointless but an cobb "short throw" shifter which actually shortens the the throw which is less movement in the shifter... just read it you'll love it over an kartyboy.. here http://cobbtuning.com/products/?id=2342
All of the short shifters reduce the throw. I can't think of any that are only shorter. Some just have varying heights.

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well people say they like kartboy..and its cheap....all these i have seen say a reduction in throw by 40% from JUST the shifter lever......so i think ill just go kartboy

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dude you don't get it... the levers kjott pointed out to you let you CHOOSE how short the throw AND height. the cobb and ixiz are superior in design than the kartboy. take it from me. I have had the sti, kartboy, and cobb short throw shifters, and the cobb is BY FAR my favorite. ixiz's is pretty much the same, but cheaper, and he has a good rep.
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no i get it...they all say a 40% reduction in throw travel...that is what i was looking to find out..i dont care how high or low the shifter itself sits...i just wanted to know which would give the best reduction in shift travel...and they all say the same

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i just wanted to know which would give the best reduction in shift travel
this is why I said you don't get it. because the cobb and ixiz shifters are adjustable, you can make the throw way, way, WAY shorter than the kartboy (if you want).
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no i get it...they all say a 40% reduction in throw travel...that is what i was looking to find out..i dont care how high or low the shifter itself sits...i just wanted to know which would give the best reduction in shift travel...and they all say the same
Using them at the maximum reduction is a little different than you might think. When the throw is that short it also makes it physically harder to shift due to the different pivot point. It also is harder to feel when you get into gear. I don't personally care which one you get I am just trying to give you all the information so that you don't buy something just to find out that you don't like it. If you get one that is adjustable at least you can change it if you want.

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well im reading their sites...they each say adjustable UP TO 40% in reduction...and kartboy just say reduction of 40%...so...thats the same MAXIMUM reduction in travel...correct? thanks for all the info! very helpful...but i think itd be pointless NOT to use it at maximum reduction....

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moral of the story...... an adjustable short shifter is the way to go..
1. adjustable knob hieght
2. adjustable throw
3. awsome
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VanillaJuice, I was in the same boat you're in (trying to decide between the Cobb adjustable and Kartboy short throw shifters) and I ended up going with Kartboy because 1) it was less expensive, 2) the Cobb adjustable shift lever has those tiny little allen wrench screws that always seem to come loose (I don't trust the screws because I had a shift knob on my old Eclipse that was held in place by very similar screws and it kept coming loose all the time) and the shifter will obviously take a lot of abuse so I have more confidence in a solid one-piece lever, and 3) for me, this was a once-and-done upgrade and I wasn't planning on adjusting it often - or ever, for that matter. Just something to think about...

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VanillaJuice, I was in the same boat you're in (trying to decide between the Cobb adjustable and Kartboy short throw shifters) and I ended up going with Kartboy because 1) it was less expensive, 2) the Cobb adjustable shift lever has those tiny little allen wrench screws that always seem to come loose (I don't trust the screws because I had a shift knob on my old Eclipse that was held in place by very similar screws and it kept coming loose all the time) and the shifter will obviously take a lot of abuse so I have more confidence in a solid one-piece lever, and 3) for me, this was a once-and-done upgrade and I wasn't planning on adjusting it often - or ever, for that matter. Just something to think about...

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3) for me, this was a once-and-done upgrade and I wasn't planning on adjusting it often - or ever, for that matter. Just something to think about...

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Thats why I got a KB, don't feel I'll ever need to adjust it, and its 30 bucks cheaper.

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