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Old 09-25-2008, 09:07 PM   #1 (permalink)
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hard to shift from 2nd to 1st

my 05 wrx is the first car with a manual trans ive owned. i noticed that its hard to shift from 2nd to 1st. i have to wait until im going 10mph or lower. is this how all manual trans' are? is that how it is with the wrx's? or do i have a problem?
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Old 09-25-2008, 09:15 PM   #2 (permalink)
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All manuals are like that...
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Old 09-25-2008, 10:39 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Well yes and no. It is harder to put the WRX into first gear above 10 MPH for most. I can and did it 3 times earlier today just to make sure I wasnt imagining things, but anyways I was at about 25MPH and had it in first. Now I didnt let the clutch out, but the shifter slid right into gear no fuss after rev matching. But it not uncommon to not be able to get your car into 1st at anything less than 10MPH.


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Old 09-25-2008, 10:46 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Going into 1st is especially hard on the WRX 5-speed. Mattering on how you do it, it can be hard to shift into first even from a slight roll. My advise is to not force it. Just use second, it's got enough torque. That or stop and go into first correctly. It would be nice to downshift into 1st at 20mph instead of almost lugging 2nd, it's true but the tranny just isn't built that way.

Now the STi's tranny... (sorry)


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Old 09-25-2008, 11:24 PM   #5 (permalink)
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...I bet your STi tranny can't pull out from a dead stop in 6th gear!!!


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Old 09-26-2008, 12:38 AM   #6 (permalink)
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I bet I could if I used enough clutch and didn't care about lugging.


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Old 09-26-2008, 02:41 AM   #7 (permalink)
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mosc, i want to see you put that tranny to use...i'm talking 400awhp+. otherwise the 5-speed would be better(unless you care about gas mileage). Sorry my sti tranny envy is talking.
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Old 09-26-2008, 03:56 AM   #8 (permalink)
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umm isn't the sti's 6th gear close to being as short or shorter than the wrx's 5th? plus the sti drivetrain is like 80 lbs heavier so if anything I think you'd get slightly worse gas mileage.
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Personally the wrx tranny already scares me from all the crap i've heard so i never down shift into first unless i'm obviously at a dead stop or barely rolling like turning around in the driveway rolling, tranny's are too expensive to do anything forcefully, well at least to expensive for me lol.
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Do you think it's because of the AWD system you can't do it until going slow? I know it's not the same car but I've goten my car into first at like 30mph and my brother has goten his old Altima into 1st at like 40mph... Maybe just because they are different car, so they work differently.


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It's not really related to the AWD. Subaru's 5-speed is just a piece of crap.


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Yep, Rev matching will be the easiest way to get it into gear with out almost coming to a dead stop or coming to a full stop and downshifting.
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Subeast did you not read my post? I can and have several times put mine into first at 20-30PH. I usually dont release the clutch over 20MPH in first but it can be done. And I do ageee the 5spd does suck.


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Old 11-21-2008, 09:30 AM   #14 (permalink)
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my 05 wrx is the first car with a manual trans ive owned. i noticed that its hard to shift from 2nd to 1st. i have to wait until im going 10mph or lower. is this how all manual trans' are? is that how it is with the wrx's? or do i have a problem?
Some can and some cant. Are cars are all built with different tolerences. samo gear boxes are built tighter than others. If you went to a dealer and say drove a blue wrx, it may be able to slip into first at 10-12 mph. Then you go and drive a black one and you have to be damn near stopped to be able to slip it into 1st. I blame Subaru. They nailed the 6 speed, but killed the 5 speed


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Old 11-21-2008, 07:39 PM   #15 (permalink)
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It's not really related to the AWD. Subaru's 5-speed is just a piece of crap.
Thanks for rubbing it in Mosc. Wish i had me the Sti 6 speed so i could do the same haha. But yes, the 5 speeds in the WRXs arent good at all. Be happy you have an 05 though, the 04-05s are a tad stronger than the 02-03s.
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