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post #181 of 209 Old 11-07-2011, 09:12 PM
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He'll have to let us know if the Albins have a whine.

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The gears DO whine a little and I WAS grinning from ear to ear when I drove it home today!

After took 5 months, 1 week, and 3 days, I'm finally behind the wheel of my own car again!!!

Here's the breakdown:

$316.00 labor for the trans teardown
$474.00 labor for the rebuild
$4,142.51 for the Albins 1-5 gearset (after a 10% discount because I had to wait so long)
$83.95 for an SPT trans mount
$30.00 for a set of Kartboy trans crossmember bushings
$39.50 labor to install the mount/bushings
$99.33 for a new battery (my stock battery was dead)
$19.75 labor to install the battery
$7.99 for a 3" 2-bolt exhaust gasket
$19.00 for a turbo-to-downpipe gasket
$75.00 for the resurfaced flywheel
$5.00 for miscellaneous exhaust hardware
$48.40 for Motul 75w90 gear oil
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$5,630.65 grand total


My intention for posting the price breakdown is to give everyone an idea for how much this type of job costs and what makes it so expensive. I realize I probably could have gotten certain things cheaper elsewhere, but I was in a difficult spot and I did what I did.

Both JJ and Rick test drove it and they were very impressed. They both said it shifts as good as any 5 speed they've ever driven. 5th gear is slightly taller, so I'll get better gas mileage on the highway which is a nice bonus. I kept all of my old parts and they're working on a photo gallery of the rebuild which should be finished in several days and I'll probably post some of all of those pics too. After driving the car myself, it feels insanely tight, shifts are extremely crisp and direct, and the whine (with the windows up) is definitely tolerable. You can really only hear the whine if you're listening for it, but it's always there. It seems to be slightly louder in the lower gears at lower speeds. After the ~1,500 mile break in period of normal driving, I'm going to switch back to the Andrewtech cocktail and change that every 15,000 miles.

That's basically it.

My car's back and I'm extremely happy. I look forward to putting many more miles on my car in the coming years.

Woo hoo!

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Holy crap....I can see in the future. I said last night that you'd get the car back today. But, I'm extremely happy to hear you got your car back. I can only imagine your loving the car all over again. Just like I am. I just need to roll my car around some more. So, that I can get my protune on it.

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19.75 to install a battery ?

I'm in the wrong bidnass.... Glad it's back in your hands.

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Looks like Albins are about $500 more than PPG then.... Andrewtech was quoting $3,750 or so plus $750 teardown/install into the case.

Wonder which one is better and why? Do you know what the ratios are of the Albins? I'm starting to think I'll want slightly longer ratios if I ever need to build.

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If you go to the Albins website (Albins Off Road Gears :: Shift to a New Level :: Transaxle :: Transfer Gears :: Gear Design :: Performance Gears :: Gearsets :: Dog Gears :: Performance Transaxle :: Sequential Transaxle) and look under Products --> PDF Product Catalog, they actually have a current (2011) list of every gear set available along with specific ratios and prices. The WRX 5 speed synchro gear sets are listed at $4,445.00 (assuming that's AUD) and the dog sets are $7,242. It appears that there are two main ratios available for helical synchro sets:

Group N: (1st) 3.08 (2nd) 2.06 (3rd) 1.55 (4th) 1.15 (5th) 0.83

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Street: (1st) 3.08 (2nd) 1.94 (3rd) 1.36 (4th) 0.97 (5th) 0.74

I'm not entirely sure which of the two I have because IAG mentioned that they were ordering a "stock ratio" set for my car, but they also said that 5th gear was a little bit taller. Initially, I thought I was getting the Street set, but it's possible I have the Group N set. Unfortunately, my ticket doesn't specify which one I have, so I'll probably ask them the next time I talk to them. And yeah, I was a little sad when I saw the battery installation charge, but they're in business to make money and I didn't really have a choice on that one. After they graciously discounted the gears 10% and knocked off 4 hours of labor on the rebuild, I'll gladly give them 20 bucks

If I'm not mistaken, I believe the stock WRX 5 speed gear ratios are:
(1st) 3.454 (2nd) 1.947 (3rd) 1.366 (4th) 0.972 (5th) 0.738 and final 3.7

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$5,630.65 grand total
Should have just bought a used Honda Accor....nevermind...lol

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2007 Subaru Impreza WRX, STI, STI Limited specification, option and price page

For 2002-2007:
5speed manual- 1st- 3.454, 2nd-1.947, 3rd- 1.366, 4th- 0.972, 5th- 0.738, final 3.700

For 2008-2011:
5speed manual; 1st 3.166, 2nd 1.882, 3rd 1.296, 4th 0.972, 5th 0.738, final 3.900

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Wow! I wonder why your gears are more expensive than PPG/PAR with the discount? That's a pretty hefty break down. Why didn't you go with a new clutch?

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Thanks Kirt, I didn't realize the ratios were different between the second and third generation WRXs.

Sandra, I decided not to upgrade the clutch at this point because:
(1) I was told my stock clutch was still in great shape
(2) I'm not yet at a power level where it is considered a significant weak point
(3) I didn't want to spend money unnecessarily

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Its kind of interesting that the 3rd gens have a shorter 1st-3rd ratio.

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I don't think I'll have to worry about my gears breaking any more

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I like how you still left that statement open John. People think that these gears (be it Albins, PAR, PPG, etc.) are indestructible. They arent, but are so much stronger than what comes stock in the car.

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Looks nice.

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+1000000000 to what Josh said

One of my friends in FL actually was the first person in the US to break a set of PPG gears, and one of my co-workers with a 600+whp WRX shattered 2nd gear on his PAR box

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