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#1 Old 06-15-2010, 12:43 AM
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VW R32 question

I realize this is a Suby forum, but it's the only car forum I belong to haha.
Anyway, does the VW R32 come stock with a turbo? I have a friend who seems to think that they come stock with a twin-turbo. However, after doing some research online, I haven't found anything that says they come with a turbo at all (twin or single).

Apologies for my lack of knowledge on the VW front haha

Oh, and how would an R32 fare against an STI (stock vs. stock)?

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I'm not a VW expert, but my brief research came up with this info:
- Previous year R32s came with 3.2 L V6, no turbo, all wheel drive, and a 6 speed trans
- There are no 2009 R32s in the United States, they're all over seas
- This year (2010), it appears as though the R32 is ditching the 3.2 V6 for a 2.0 4 cylinder with a turbo which might actually be more powerful
- All of the different turbo setups (single, twin, other) you hear about on those cars currently are aftermarket

As far as which one is faster, here are some "numbers" to compare the best of each that you can currently get in the US:
Motor Trend tested the 2008 VW R32 and it ran a 14.4 1/4 mile: 2008 Volkswagen R32 - First Drive - Motor Trend
Motor Trend also tested the 2010 STi SE and it ran a 13.6 1/4 mile: 2010 Subaru Impreza WRX STI Special Edition First Test - Motor Trend
To be fair, here's some info from the 2008 STi (1/4 in 13.5): 2008 Subaru Impreza WRX STI Verdict - Motor Trend

Pretty much stock for stock, the STi seems to be faster, but you could modify both cars to be significantly faster than stock fairly easily. Hope that helps.

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Seeing that the STi is a couple hundred pounds lighter and has around 50 more hp I would hope it wins.

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I looked into an R32 awhile back, for the price of them and the performance (or lack there of) its definetly not worth its price to me. They do seem to be more rare than the subies, so maybe thats one thing it has over it.

Good find btw John.

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I looked into an R32 awhile back, for the price of them and the performance (or lack there of) its definetly not worth its price to me. They do seem to be more rare than the subies, so maybe thats one thing it has over it.

Good find btw John.
Yeah, I agree. They're still nice cars, and have a lot of upgrade potential.
They are indeed rare. They only made like 4000 (if I recall correctly).
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Thanks a lot for all of your help, guys!
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Oh, and how do you think a 3.2L V6 R32 would fair against a WRX? The power range is a little closer in this case.
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...depends what year WRX you're talking about. They're a little different and many are not stock any more. A Stage 2 WRX would be able to compete pretty well with it, but I think a stock WRX might have some problems - unless it was an 09+ which received a slightly better turbo than previous years.

And besides, that's technically considered bench racing and it's against forum policy

I was just curious about the R32 to STi comparison, but now you're getting a little picky. Is the difference in power going to affect your decision to purchase one model over another? Because, again, you can easily modify all three cars to be significantly faster than stock.

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...depends what year WRX you're talking about. They're a little different and many are not stock any more. A Stage 2 WRX would be able to compete pretty well with it, but I think a stock WRX might have some problems - unless it was an 09+ which received a slightly better turbo than previous years.

And besides, that's technically considered bench racing and it's against forum policy

I was just curious about the R32 to STi comparison, but now you're getting a little picky. Is the difference in power going to affect your decision to purchase one model over another? Because, again, you can easily modify all three cars to be significantly faster than stock.
I am aware that all three cars can be modified. I was just curious how the R32 would compare to something lower than an STI.
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Well, if you're not concerned with how reliable these sources are, this is what I came up with as far as stock 1/4 mile times if you're just looking for a rough comparison. Considering the 2008 R32 runs about 14.4, a stock 2002-2008 WRX should run somewhere in the range of 14.1-14.7 and a stock 2009+ WRX should run somewhere around 13.5, so I think there's your answer. Any stock 02-08 WRX should hang with a 2008 (+/-) R32 and a stock 09+ WRX should probably be able to beat it.

Stock 2002-2005 WRX 1/4 mile: 2005 Subaru Impreza WRX and STi spec page
14.4, 14.7, 14.1, 14.5

Stock 2006-2007 WRX 1/4 mile: Stock 2007 Subaru Impreza WRX TR 1/4 mile Drag Racing timeslip specs 0-60 - DragTimes.com
14.1

Stock 2008 WRX 1/4 mile: Comparison Test: 2008 Subaru WRX vs. 2007 Mazdaspeed 3
14.5

Stock 2009 WRX 1/4 mile: 2009 Subaru Impreza WRX - Testing the 2009 Subaru Impreza WRX 5-door - Motor Trend
13.5 (yep, thirteen.five - they're faster than previous years)

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Well, if you're not concerned with how reliable these sources are, this is what I came up with as far as stock 1/4 mile times if you're just looking for a rough comparison. Considering the 2008 R32 runs about 14.4, a stock 2002-2008 WRX should run somewhere in the range of 14.1-14.7 and a stock 2009+ WRX should run somewhere around 13.5, so I think there's your answer. Any stock 02-08 WRX should hang with a 2008 (+/-) R32 and a stock 09+ WRX should probably be able to beat it.

Stock 2002-2005 WRX 1/4 mile: 2005 Subaru Impreza WRX and STi spec page
14.4, 14.7, 14.1, 14.5

Stock 2006-2007 WRX 1/4 mile: Stock 2007 Subaru Impreza WRX TR 1/4 mile Drag Racing timeslip specs 0-60 - DragTimes.com
14.1

Stock 2008 WRX 1/4 mile: Comparison Test: 2008 Subaru WRX vs. 2007 Mazdaspeed 3
14.5

Stock 2009 WRX 1/4 mile: 2009 Subaru Impreza WRX - Testing the 2009 Subaru Impreza WRX 5-door - Motor Trend
13.5 (yep, thirteen.five - they're faster than previous years)
Hmmm, interesting. I suppose the V6 makes up for the lack of a turbo in previous year R32s. Impressive times for a non-turbo car.
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for the 04 and 08 r32's its common to to see it turbod with a gt 35 or 40 less common is a twin turbo set up but there are still quite a few out there though. so that may be where your friend got that idea but I think price wise you can usually get more hp for the dollar on a r32 then a subie mainly because adding a turbo and supporting mods gets you to the 500 to 700 hp much easier then on an sti. still not cheap. I would like to see how two built cars would do against each other with similar dyno numbers. also the r32 may weigh more stock but it has a ton of weight to loose in luxuries a serious track doesn't need but at the same time in a track setting the r32 is unbalanced and suffers from under steer. r32's definitely would beat a sti for top speed though but really who is surprised by that?
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I'm originally a VW dude and the 2004 R32 was my choice of fav car but from Canada I had to go the Suby route. Neither the 2008 or 2004 R32 come forced induction unless you call HPA to help you out.
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yeah I am a VW guy too. owned nothing but them until I had the chance at a wrx. I do find myself longing for another vw but not til after I get my sti haha, but that will happen soon enough.
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