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#1 Old 04-14-2011, 11:35 AM
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Why not Eibach?

I see many of you have added aftermarket sway bars and seems like a good investment. I have a 2010 WRX and would like to add sway bars, but I have not seen anyone run the package that Eibach offers, front and rear for the cost of a front Perrin.
Is there a reason?
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Time on the market maybe?

Perrin proven to work well on Subies in the past.. Same for Whiteline and Hotchkiss....

Has Eibach been making them long for the Subies?

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yeah Eibach has had parts out for our cars from the beginning

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Size/diameter doesn't exceed stock ?

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They're fatter than the 02 WRX ones anyway. I think they're roughly STi level fat. Most other aftermarket ones are beyond that. Also, stay away from Eibach WRX springs, they're garbage. Too low a springrate with too much drop.

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When shopping for sway bars, here are some things to consider:

1. Do you care about the weight of the bars? If you do, buy hollow bars since they're lighter than solid bars.

2. Look for weak spots - welded spots are typically weak points.

3. Adjustable sway bars are really nice, but you'll pay a little more for them. Even though the settings are usually limited to 2 or 3 per bar, it's fun to play around with them and it's really nice to dial in exactly what you like.

4. What's the intended driving purpose of the car: street or track? If that car is tracked, what are the class limitations? If there are none, get the biggest bars you can find. If it's your daily driver, you probably want to keep some understeer characteristics that the car comes with from the factory (typically, that means having a slightly larger front than rear bar). This means that at the limit going around a curve, the front end will lose traction before the rear. This is safer because as you slow down, the nose of the car will eventually regain traction and you'll be able to steer in the direction you want to, although the steering radius will be significantly longer and you may plow head-on into something that you didn't want to - but in a crash situation, this is actually safer than hitting the object sideways. If your car had oversteer - or in an emergency situation snap oversteer - the back end of the car would whip around at the limit or while swerving abruptly, causing you to lose control completely (unless your car has a ridiculous amount of power and you could mash the gas pedal to the floor and regain control with a drift - which very few of us have the ability to do).

...a good rule of thumb is to upgrade both bars at the same time and in relatively similar increments. You don't want to get only a huge front or only a huge rear bar because that would create unusual handling characteristics. You should get a pair of medium or large bars and install them at the same time (ideally, with upgraded endlinks too) for the best results.

I don't know how much you've read about this stuff, but that's most of what I've gathered. Aftermarket sway bars and endlinks were by far one of my favorite modifications. Good luck and keep us posted.

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Hollow bars are way weaker than solid

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They're still stronger than the end links, and that's all that matters. Been running Cobb hollow 25mm bars F&R for 5 years. 6 front links later the bars are still in great shape.
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^ wagonracer, are you replacing your front endlinks with stock endlinks or have you been experimenting with different aftermarket links?

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I have the Eibachs and I'm quite happy with them. I like them more than the Perrin bar I had so far.

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^ wagonracer, are you replacing your front endlinks with stock endlinks or have you been experimenting with different aftermarket links?
I've never broken the stock ones ! I was experimenting with different aluminum ones and broke every billet one I tried. Guess they need the little bit of flex that the stockers provide.
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All my flex went straight... to my control arm. Lateral link specifically.

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Yeah I remember that Jon.

Thanks wagonracer. My stock front endlinks seem to be holding up just fine with the Whiteline 24 mm front bar on the stiff setting. I don't really have any plans to change them until they break.

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All this endlink talk should end with some Kartboy endlinks. They are the best on the market IMHO, made in the USA, and almost indestructable (never heard of a failure and they are used A LOT). Also, Tom the owner of Kartboy is an awesome vendor and very active in the subaru community.

I have had mine since '07 or '08 w/Cobb Sways and have not heard a peep out of them since.
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Yes indeedy. I'm quite pleased with my Kartboy rear endlinks and I was even more excited when I discovered the atomic fireball in the packaging! The Kartboy front endlinks were of superb quality, but they just didn't quite fit right with the Whiteline 24 mm adjustable front sway bar on my 07 WRX - even with the spacers. I sold the front ones recently, so they should have a new happy home by now.

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