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#1 Old 05-19-2009, 12:22 AM
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Help me find a set of tires

Vehicle = 2007 WRX Sedan
Suspension Modifications = Stock
Wheels = Stock 17x7
I'm Looking For = Good All Season Tires

My stock tires are still on the car (Bridgestone Potenza RE92 215/45/17 All Season), but they're complete garbage - not to mention, the tread is getting dangerously low - and I don't have any desire to purchase those exact same tires again. I don't have the funds to purchase a nice set of summer wheels/tires and a second set of winter wheels/tires, so I'm going to settle for a set of good all seasons on my stock wheels for now. With this in mind, my first, and probably most important decision, is what size to get. Some things to consider:

215/45/17
Pro + slightly narrower, so probably better winter performance
Pro + slightly less material, so probably lighter weight and better gas mileage
Con - worse dry performance than a wider tire

225/45/17
Con - slightly wider, so probably worse winter performance
Con - slightly more material, so probably heavier weight and worse gas mileage
Pro + better dry performance than a narrower tire

I'm leaning toward 225/45/17 which is a little wider than stock, but from what I've read, they should fit just fine. I live in Maryland and do have to occasionally drive in some snow, but I don't think the extra width of the wider tire will be that much of a negative issue. And the extra dry performance I'd get would probably make up for the slightly worse gas mileage due to the extra weight. So unless anybody can seriously convince me otherwise, I'll probably end up with the slightly wider 225/45/17.

Now, for the tires themselves... I'm probably going to try to get them through a friend who can get them at cost (+/-) through his place of employment and mount the new ones and dispose of the old ones for me for free, so all I have to do is tell him the size and exact model that I'm looking for and throw him a few bucks and he'll take care of the rest. Based on TireRack.com's reviews (basically, I'm not considering any tires that were less than average in winter performance), here are the brands that I might consider purchasing in 225/45/17:

Bridgestone Potenza RE960AS Pole Position
- Excellent wet/dry performance, good/average winter performance, plain looking tread

Continental ContiExtremeContact
- Good all-around performance, plain looking tread

Michelin Pilot Sport A/S Plus
- Excellent dry/wet performance, good winter performance, cool looking tread

Bridgestone Potenza G 019 Grid
- Good all-around performance, plain looking tread

Dunlop SP Sport Signature
- Good all-around performance, slightly more interesting looking tread

Michelin Pilot Exalto A/S
- Good all-around performance, plain looking tread

And now my eyes are a little sore after reading a bunch of reviews and I'm tired, so I'll probably come back to this list later, but I guess that's a start. Thanks for reading and all opinions are welcome.

The bottom line is: quality is more important to me than price. I want a good set of all season tires.

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I went from 215/45/17 Goodyear Eagle F1 GS-D3 (summers) to 225/45/17 Goodyear Eagle F1 All Seasons with hesitation also, about a year ago. But I'm happy with the switch in sizes. My experience is that the slightly wider tire reduces the tendency to roll onto the sidewall when cornering hard (or in other words you won't have to crank up the psi to keep that from happening). I think gas mileage is essentially a wash because even though you may have a bit more mass, it will be offset by a slightly greater circumference (more distance per revolution). Can't help you with your brands though, as I have nothing but great things to say about the Goodyear Eagle F1 series (on a WRX) and have yet to try a different brand. Good luck on your decision!

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To be honest, I don't know much about tires, so I won't be able to pitch in much here. What I can say though, is this; there are other factors to consider here besides performance. There is a significant difference between the looks and comfort of 225/45 tires vs 215/45 tires. Your car will sit slightly lower with 215s, but your fender gap will be larger. Imo the diameter of the 225s is just right; you can get rid of most of the fender gap without sitting too low and sacrificing driveability. There is also a significant difference in comfort between the two. It may seem trivial at first, but 225/45s are noticeably more comfortable to ride on. Also, 225s on 7" rims provide some room for error when it comes to parallel parking and the like. It is slightly easier to prevent curbing and damage from potholes.

Lastly, if I were you I would consider buying another set of rims and tires so you can have a dedicated summer and winter set. I know it's much easier to say than afford, but I can assure you that in the end you will not regret it.
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Toyo Proxes 4...they have excellent wet and dry grip and when I lived up north I ocasionally had to drive on them in the snow and they really didnt perform to bad

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I just got toyo proxes 4 put on. They are quiet they look good and hold the road nicely. I was torn between the Sport Sigs and The continentals also. I got my toyos online for $67 a piece. Home Page @ Tire Deals 4 Less
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Proxes are terrible in the snow and have less dry grip than most of the others listed here.

225/45/17 Bridgestone Potenza RE960 A/S

Or, better answer, get a seperate dedicated winter and summer tire.
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I think some proxes are better than others in the snow. The Proxes 4 are being run by alot of guys out here in oregon we all seem to get up and down the mountain in the snow okay. I've not tried the other tires listed so i can't say. I'm very happy with mine.
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I am fortunate that I have a lot of friends with similar types of cars that let eachother drive them. I've tried most of the different types of rubber. None of these choices are "bad" really and to really differentiate them, it takes some comparison effort.
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I have had a lot of different tires over the years on different vehicles. If you want some pretty unbiased info on which tires are right and even what features of tires benefit in different ways, go to tirerack.com. I always went for directional tire (really because I didn't know their fundamental benefit was rain control), but for an all season it's not really a key feature. . . If you deal with occasional snow, but altogether you drive in all conditions, you want an all season. I live where it snows a lot, and I've had different sets of snow tires before, with summer wheels and tires to mount up in the warmth. Determine the use for your tires, first. You said you weren't as concerned about the cost for the tires as getting a good tire. You get longer tire life from BOTH sets of tires by having a set for each purpose (reason being each tire was designed to wear in different conditions - like how a snow tire gets eaten by hot road weather and sport tires stay brittle and spin in the winter, causing unnecessary wear). So you're actually saving money by buying 2 sets in the long run. Keep in mind you do not have to have another set of wheels. Places like Discount will generally swap the tires over for free if you bought them there. AND you can have different sizes for the snow (205/50-17s) vs summer (225/45-17). Right now you only need to get your set of summer tires, so you can get stickier rubber for now, and 6 months from now you can shell out the other 350 or so for winter tires. I realize that costs more up front now. . . But in my mind, the car will be safer, and more fun to drive, as it will handle at its best in either condition. So value-wise, if you have no objections to spending a little more to get something better, get 2 sets. Because snow tires will outperform street tires any day, no matter how good the all-season is. Also, summer performance tires will grip better all summer long than even the best all season once again. That being said - If you live where it only gets "occasional" snow that usually gets plowed, get all seasons. If you get a lot of rain, get directional tires. As far as all seasons, Nitto Neo Gens are also a pretty good bet, as street and higher speed performance is good without a center groove, they can evacuate water quickly because of the tread pattern. There are lots of choices, and it comes down to your driving style and what feels good to you. I don't drive very aggressively, but on the chance that I need it, I want a tire that will hold the road tight for me. Getting 2 sets made sense for my scenario, and my next purchase will be good summer tires as I dislike the stock Bridgestone tires the car came with. I'm reaching 25k and they have plenty of tread, but they're far to soft in the side walls for me. Good luck, let us all know what you get and your response. I hope this can help you.
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Man, you know, I really want to do that, but I just made it through a really bad billing cycle and all of my savings is gone. If I do get another set of wheels and summer tires, I'll be putting myself in debt, so that's why I was thinking about just getting a set of all seasons for now and maybe next year I'll be in a better financial situation to afford 2 sets of wheels/tires dedicated to summer/winter performance. Or.. I could stretch out the life of my stock tires as long as possible and try to save up and get winter tires put on this winter and another set of wheels w/ summer tires next summer. I just need to think about this a little more... if I had some extra spending money, the decision would be much easier.

:: sigh ::

Thanks for everyone's input so far though. It's really helpful.

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Bridgestone RE960s cost about as much as a cheap set of rims and summer tires. Seriously. Your cost estimates are off. If you can store an extra set, it's not a financial strain to buy winter and summer sets. You're not getting shorter treadlife unless you buy extreme tires. In fact, there are lots of summer tires that cost less per mile than all seasons.

225/45/17 and a 17x8 +50 you can get for $99 each for the rim and $85 each for General UHP tires. Mounting and balancing is free. Shipping is dependent on address but about $50 total. For roughly $800, you can have a mounted set of summer tires on rims show up at your front door courtesy of tire rack. (No links, not allowed)
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Sorry, I was off a little bit on the tire cost. My last set was like $85 a piece for my snow tires. . . those were Michelin X-Ices. They were AWESOME. . . But back to the point. Sorry, the current price for snow tires it's like 100-130 a piece for them. That's for a set of 205/50s, and 215/45s. My pricing I stated at 350 did not include wheels, but as you're using the same size wheels, you could keep the tires alone sitting in the garage. Either way. So if you're on a tight budget, I'd say look at the Nitto Neo Gens, Goodyear Eagle GTs, Sumitomo HTR+s, and the Kumho Ecsta ASXs. ALL of those tires should keep you around $100 a piece for them. They also all offer long tread life. Really check out the info Tire Rack has about which tire is right for you. Good luck, buddy.
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"I'd say look at the Nitto Neo Gens, Goodyear Eagle GTs, Sumitomo HTR+s, and the Kumho Ecsta ASXs."

A long list of tires that are very poorly thought of by most tire experts...

Check out:
Continental ContiExtremeContact
Yokohama AVID W4S
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Sorry if those tires aren't great; I only checked user reviews on them, I don't mean to put out any bad advice. All the reviews for the sets I recommended were pretty high ratings from purchasers of those tires.
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reviews are good and all...but theres not that many people that review tires on subarus and tires definitely react different on different cars...especially AWD cars vs. 2WD cars so when ever you reading reviews try and find people that drive a similar car with a similar size and driving style

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