Ok so i have made my mind up and im going to get a evo 16g turbo. Just becasue i have head better things about the 16g then getting the stock STI turbo. but my question is where a good place to get one. I have been looking at ebay but I don't know if i can trust that. has there been anyone that has a got a 16g from ebay or somewhere else that has been good??? thanks for the help
blouchturbo.com. Unless you are going to get a used one for substantially less, I'd want the protection of a waranty when spending close to a grand.
Also, I don't want to patronize you, but have you done the research? This isn't exactly a quick bolt on. You don't have the supporting mods yet. Those are going to run you another grand.
just outta curiousity i notice they have a lot of options to go along with the turbo, upgrade lines, acuator, coating, what would you guys say is a must have to go along with the turbo? if any?
None of the turbo options are must haves. There are other mod requirements though:
-Catless Uppipe
-Bellmouth downpipe (catted or uncatted)
-650cc or larger injectors
-Larger intercooler, preferably a large TMIC like perrin or APS for the E3-16G
-Fuel Pump
-Intake silencer delete of some form (SPT/Cobb intake, simple elbow delete also works)
-A good tune. (If you plan to use a stock AP map, you must match the map EXACTLY which means a SMALL 16G and 565cc injectors)
The intercooler is arguable, but I don't have any personal experience with it. The STI topmount is pretty big. My tuner reccomends sticking with the STI IC until you are pushing past the 400 mark, I believe.
The intercooler is arguable, but I don't have any personal experience with it. The STI topmount is pretty big. My tuner reccomends sticking with the STI IC until you are pushing past the 400 mark, I believe.
You can see from my dyno graph pretty clearly. My car had to scale back the boost. This was due to the air getting too hot into the engine. I was intercooler limited on a small 16G and a STi TMIC. Granted my EJ257 flows more than the EJ205 but he's also talking about a larger compressor than I have. He will be intercooler limited with an STi top mount.
You didn't read what I said. If you get an E3-16G compressor, you aught to get larger injectors than that. The problem is that requires a custom tune. Get:
650cc or larger injectors
whatever compressor 16G you want
custom tune
OR
565cc injectors EXACTLY
small "standard" 16G compressor
use the cobb AP map
yeah the fuel pump as well and i also bought an evoIII big 16 g turbo on ebay for exactly 500 brand new. it got here pretty fast and in perfect condition.
Blouch has much better customer service. When I was getting my 18G I emailed all 3 companies and called them.
Blouch and DB both had exceptional and knowledgeable customer service. FP never responded to my email or called me back. That did it for me. I ended up going with a Blouch 18G 8cm and couldn't be happier.
I have also only heard good things about Blouch & DB but there have been many complaints about FP's customer service. Product wise (quality and fitment) all 3 should be about the same. However, from the turbos I have seen (FP and Blouch)...Blouch tend to be a little prettier and have a better PnP & coat job. Additionally, there seems to be a higher failure rate with FP turbos on the forums, but that could just because they cost a little less so more people are using them.
The FP Evo 16G is one I was looking at.Comparing it to Blouch's EVO 16G it is $100 cheaper and comes with a 1bar (14.5psi) wastegate actuator.Blouch's come with a 9psi wastegate actuator but you can upgrade for $120.So right of the bat thats a $200 difference.A higher wastegate spring pressure in the actuator will allow for better spool up and boost control when your trying to run 18-20psi on those turbos.Plus FP turbos ship with up-pipe and downpipe turbo gaskits as well.
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