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#16 Old 07-15-2008, 02:59 PM
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"Taking out STi's on a budget", sounds like an oxymoron to me. Let me know how that goes.

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thanx a lot to all +reps so ok, if i get headers and uppipe as well as a full TBE, what else would be needed? atleast anything other than swapping turbos. tires are a must i know that i'm already looking some recomendations would be great 1 cuzz i kno nothing about them and 2 cuzz i really kno nothing about them. thnx
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With your exhaust mods you need a good tune first and for most. That will put you up to about 280hp at the crank give or take. Next upgrade really past that is turbo, fuel delivery and of course intercooler upgrade with that. Keep in mind our weakest link, the tranny is going to hold you back most of all beyond your exhaust and tune. You can see how expensive this is going to get and quick (Reason for my smart ass comment above). Trust me, we will be glad to spend your money and get you there, but its going to take a few duckets, eh? Cheers!

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Might want to read through this, will help you a lot, good luck.
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If the information is accurate, then there is no problem. I do it myself a lot.


With an 02, you'll gain little from headers unless you're going to be heavily modded. With headers, you're going to lose a lot of good mid end for a little top end power. With a TBE, uppipe, EM, and a good tune, you'll be comparable to an STi in a straight line. Typically, the next step after that is bigger turbo, injectors, fuel pump, and intercooler. Unfortunately as you can imagine, it can get very pricey.

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The STi has a 2.5L engine, you have a 2.0L engine. The STi has a VF39 turbo, you have a TD04 turbo. It also has smaller advantages due to a larger intercooler and injectors.

If you really want to have more power than an STi, you should address those things. They're more costly though.

The cheapest way to make more power in a WRX is a downpipe and some engine management. Period. Those two mods. Anything else does not give any substantial gains. Headers and an uppipe? I thought you said you were on a budget. Downpipes can be found used for <$200 and you can buy a $50 cable to flash an open source stage 2 map on your car. Should put down close to the same WHP as a stock STi.

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Wow, after reading this, of course all the great knowledge came out. But not a single person told the OP to read, learn and search first. Everything he asked for has been BEAT TO DEATH. I was very new to these cars also. Take time, search on here and other forums, and even google. Everything you want to do to your car has already been done, several times,several different ways. Im not trying to be hard, but search and learn sme before.

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thnx Vew but wtf is EM?? is it engine management?? cuzz i thought that was the same as a tune. n sorry if i'm wrong please correct me (peacefully) if i am n i once again i really appreciate the help
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thnx Vew but wtf is EM?? is it engine management?? cuzz i thought that was the same as a tune. n sorry if i'm wrong please correct me (peacefully) if i am n i once again i really appreciate the help
em is engine management. You can have EM but not be TUNED. Take the cobb accessport for example. Its a device that flashes a software based map onto your ECU with different parameters of boost, fuel, timing, etc. Now they have developed safe base maps for each year/model that could can run on your car, BUT it's very generic. Having your car PROTUNED is when a professional is in your car (in most cases) either on the road or on the dyno tweaking all those parameters to best fit how your car responds to whatever modifications are installed. It usually takes from few to many revisions of the software, like trial and error, to get the best possible map scaling for your car. A protune is absolutely the best mod you could ever do, whether your at stock power levels or a built engine. Does that make sense?

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so the difference between engine management n a tune is that a tune is when it's professionaly done?? lol sorry i have no idea man
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Not quite. The difference is engine management is the means through which a tune is performed. Using a form of EM (cobb AP, opensource, UTEC, etc) you can flash a software map onto your ECU with different parameters (higher boost etc) ultimately making your car run stronger just through software. A tune (if you're skilled enough) can be done by anyone. It does not need to be performed by a Pro if you yourself have the ability. Tuning a car is basically altering the parameters on the piece of software to best cater to your individual car.

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Rooster - Flashing a software map through EM is usually a generic file that is a more conservative that what you would get from a tune. A tune is custom to your car specifically and usually a bit more aggressive.

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EM = A means to change tuning
protune = A specific tune for your car

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Sorry, I guess I should have explained. When I speak of EM, I do mean engine management. Of course, I assume you already know that the car needs to be tuned after installing EM, but I guess the term is used semi-loosely.

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Haha, Basics for the layperson.

EM= The door to a house.
Tune= What you do in the house.
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