I have a 2004 Wrx and I am currently running a TurboXS Stage 2. Im doing the turbo/injectors/fuel pump mods next. Im shooting for 1/4 mile times only, looking for a high 12 second 1/4 mile pass. Here in California our track is above sea level giving me a 14.2 time now. I was trying to decide between the VF34 and VF22 or others. Anyone have any experience? Thanks.
i would go with the vf22.. the lag isnt anywhere near as bad as everyone pretends it to be.. it spools about 200 to 300rpms later then the vf34.. and the top end the vf22 has will more then make up for the little bit of lag.. If you are looking for good 1/4 mile times then the vf22 is the best choice of all IHI turbos.. also the price is good also for 600 bucks how can you beat it.. If you want to go bigger then the vf22 a Fp18g is a good choice.. but it is also alot more money probly double the price of the vf22.. a few cars around NJ running on 94 have made 12.4 and 12.3 1/4 mile passes running a vf22.. also make sure you get a really good tune it will help alot.. iam running my vf22 at 18psi and put down 300whp and 287tq.. and thats on a very safe tune.. if you wanted to push it a little say put it up to 20-21 psi you could hit 310+whp no problem... but like i said befor if you are looking for a IHI turbo best suited for the 1/4 then the vf22 is probly the best..
They're both very good turbos. The VF34 is good for street and track. But if you are trying to chase that magic number and aren't planning on making it an everyday driver, then the VF22 is your best bet. It has more lag than the VF34 turbo, but it's not a ball bearing turbo so lag is expected. But the remedy for launch lag is to get that turbo moving on the line. Rev about 1000 rpms higher than normal.
I have a vf22 and my car is a daily driver.. its probly not the safest daily driver but its fine.. I have heard of more people blowing up motors and trannys on vf34/vf30 then any other turbos.. you probly ask why that is.. because people running vf34/vf30 think that it is safe when really it isnt as safe as you think.. people tend to push the vf34 to the limits because they want most power.. and dont want to go to an "unsafe" turbo.. thats where they get alot of det and high egts and thats the end of the motor.. the only safe setup is stock other wise be prepared to break stuff.. if you are looking for big power.. look into a setup that will make that power with out tuneing to the max.. i wanted a 300whp setup soo i went with a vf22 and it does it safely.. if i had went with a vf34 i would have instead of running 18psi.. i would have had to run 20+ psi to get the same power.. which in turn i would of gotten higher egts and putting alot of stress of the turbo also.. It you are looking for about 280whp safely then go with a vf34.. if you want 300whp safely go with a vf22..
What about getting a vf22 by deadbolt with their monster port. They say its proven to give 300-700RPM quicker spoolup, quicker torque peak, quicker acceleration, and better "roll-on" acceleration. http://www.deadboltspeed.com/services.htm I havn't been able to make my mind up, 34 or 22 from deadbolt. I finally decided i'm going with FMIC and not a weenie Tmic
You are better off with a fmic if you are going to go with a vf22 or bigger.. you can run a little bit more of an aggresive tune then compared to a tmic.. because the fmic cools the air better and in turn makes less det.. soo you can push you turbo/motor more, and still be on the safe side.. if you are thinking about going with a vf34 you could run a fmic but it wouldnt be worth spending the extra money.. as i said in the other thread its all about how much hp you are looking for.. the more hp = money..
Yeah, I agree. I'm going with a VF34 with an APS TMI. Two reasons. Too much piping, and I want the car to look stock. A FMIC with a VF34 would just add too much lag for my liking.
The new TurboXS FMIC is going for 1k$ right now that comes with the bumper part to so you dont hack your car up. So if you think about it, a Tmic is going for about 800-900 then you should get sti hoodscoop and splitter with that, so you are looking at 1200$ for a tmic. Vf22 with monster port by deadbolt and maybe ported wastegate will still be under 1 grand with better spooling
"Other" gets my vote. 18g will easily get you where you want to be without having to run at the end of its rope. Its a lot more turbo than the 22.
And the TXS FMIC still requires plenty of hacking (coolant overflow tank, undercover, fog lamp housings and bumper cover). The Core is not as good as the older Hyperflows but its not that bad, for the price.
yeah the 18g does flow alot more air then the vf22.. but it is alot more money to.. as i said befor just depends what you want.. why spend an extra 500+ on a turbo that flows enuf for 320-330whp.. when your only looking for a turbo the flows enuf air safely for 300-315whp.. also about the turboxs fmic i dont think they sell it anymore.. you can buy the better version that is just hyperflow.. if you are running an 18g and only putting down 300whp.. you wasted your money.. i kinda get a kick out of some people around where i live.. this one guy put on a 20g and is only putting down 320whp.. he is scared if he goes any higher something will blow up.. why buy a big turbo and not use it? oh well to each thier own i guess.. just my 02. .
ya vf22 goes around 600-650 while the 18g that i'm looking at by deadbolt is 1200, the one that is just oil cooled is 995 though. Thats the Tdo5 18g the o6 is a little more expensive.
well all depends on what you want to do. the TD06 housing on that turbo is a bit much for the 2.0l and controlling boost on it is also a struggle in that configuration on that motor. The TD05 is another story however. Tuned right it will spool like a vf34 but have a top end much higher than the 22. True it really shines at 20psi and above but that is well within a tunable range. Yes its more $$ but once you get 300whp odds are you are going to want 310...then 320...then..............bigger turbo. When you get to that point you can relatively inexpensively have the ability to turn your 18g into a 20g. BTW Deadbolt is a great company. Free rebuilds for life on that turbo. So if you are only making 300 on an 18g with conservative tuning. big deal. There is nothing wrong with having room to grow. You get what you pay for.
And Yes TXS does still sell the FMIC. I saw one the other day and its not a bad piece. the core is not bad at all is just not polished like the Hyperflow
just depends on what the person wants to do i guess.. i went with the vf22 because it wasnt alot of money and could make over 300whp.. which it does very well.. if i was going to spend the money i would skip the 18g just go with a 20g/green.. chances are if you are running a 18g to its max you are going to need a new motor/tranny.. soo say you get a version 7 and a six speed.. just slap on a green which isnt to much money considering the price of the 18g.. and be done 400whp.. thats my setup going in spring time ..
I'm waiting to get 20g/or fpgreen. I'm going for the 18g first and wait tell i need a new tranny then i'm getting the Ra gears, and if i my engine needs a rebuild i'm going with forged internals and going 2.2l thats when the 20g/fpgreen comes in play. But for now i'm going with the TD05 18g and FMIC (of course with all components to go with them)
thats kinda what im looking to do TXSnEj20. i want to to the TODA 2.2L kit but with a VF22. that will spool that thing like crazy, give me all the low end torque that i want, and still give me over 300awhp. i think that the 2.2L kits are great ways to make the larger turbos much more streetable.
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