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UP/DP Combo: Perrin or Helix?

Im going for the UP/DP mod now and im looking at these two. My problem is that Helix is a great brand, but the price drives me off a little bit. Now the Perrin combo seems better quality and name, but is it worth the extra dough? Also, what do I need besides the UP/DP in order to run this set up correctly (such as any 02 sensors or resistors and stuff)? Oh yea, I'll be keeping the midpipe cat only.


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I have the Helix uppipe and downpipe. I have had them for about a year, and have no complaints whatsoever.
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The Helix uppipe isn't too good for the stock turbo because its quite a bit bigger than the stocker. I say Perrin uppipe, and Helix downpipe haha.
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There is nothing wrong with the Helix uppipe. It has the same spool characteristics as the TurboXS uppipe I had before it, plus it has a flex joint which keeps you from having to replace gaskets once a month.
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i have the Helix DP/UP combo. nice setup for the price.

i think i saw that Mauromotorsports has them on sale for $400

with the setup's you mentioned, you will lose all of your cats.
Helix does have a catted DP though
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Cos doesn't the Helix uppipe have a 2.25" ID which is quite a bit bigger than the stock one? It says right on Gruppe-s that it is best for upgraded turbos. Don't you want to keep the uppipe ID the same as stock unless you have an upgraded turbo?
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That doesn't seem to make much of a difference. At least, not one that I can tell in any of the 3 cars that I have driven that have the Helix uppipe.
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Cos doesn't the Helix uppipe have a 2.25" ID which is quite a bit bigger than the stock one? It says right on Gruppe-s that it is best for upgraded turbos. Don't you want to keep the uppipe ID the same as stock unless you have an upgraded turbo?

but then there are tuners (don't recall who at the moment) that say that you lose on the low end when you take the cat out of the UP, so why not keep the stock UP in?

it really doesn't matter as long as the individual is happy with what they have.
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That doesn't seem to make much of a difference. At least, not one that I can tell in any of the 3 cars that I have driven that have the Helix uppipe.
I know your car doesn't have the stock turbo, but do any of the other two cars that you have driven have the Helix uppipe with the stock turbo?
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I have the perrin up pipe and invidia down pipe.. both fit very well and have a nice look to them.. its sad you cant see the up pipe because the perrin up pipe is a very nice looking pice..
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probably late but the perrin should come with a resistor because it deletes the egt sensor. i like the uppipe, it is a great looking also! i have the perrin dp too, mmmm shiny huge pipe...(hope that dont sound too wierd)
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I know your car doesn't have the stock turbo, but do any of the other two cars that you have driven have the Helix uppipe with the stock turbo?
I had the uppipe/downpipe for about 5 months before I upgraded my turbo.
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Ok...I dont want to loose ALL my cats. I just want one, but does the Borla cat-back and the Helix set-up leave me with atleast one? Also, where do I get the O2 sensors and/or resistors so that I dont get a check engine??
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Supposedly with a catted downpipe you don't need the resistors. With the cat you supposedly don't get a CEL. I have never tried one so I can't say for sure. However, when I ordered my downpipe from Gruppe-s they sent me a CEL fix free. If you don't get one, you can go to www.ponyexpressperformance.com and get one.
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IF you need to fix the CEL for the DP, you can do the mechanical fix (which is a pair of foulers stacked) for the UP fix you can either put the EGT probe back in or use the resistor. if you have a Cobb AP, Stg2, both are fixed for you.
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