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post #1 of 10 Old 07-15-2006, 01:34 AM Thread Starter
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help with modding for torque

My current knowledge is that HP numbers are what the common joe knows and measures a car's worth with and torque numbers are what really matter overall. ( correct me if i'm wrong... which i don't think i am ) ....... so it'd be safe to say that if you want a "real" performing cars that can handle real track type driving with fast stopping , quick acceleration , twisty turns, etc ...... that torque is what you need for that quick get up and go that gives you the advantage, correct ? suspension setups , tires and all that set aside.... how do you mod your wrx to maximize torque ? Most products out there only advertise the HP or the AWHP .... but if really those numbers don't matter per se , then how do you go about getting the most torque possible out of the 2.0l wrx ? any info would be great.... trying to get that concept question down....
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Most of your torque gains are going to be utilized by proper tuning on a dyno. Mod your car for power and then when you go to tune it, tell the tuner what you want from the car and they can give you some insight as well.

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this is a real good question. i used to dream about that but never figured out how. a wrc car has only 300 hp yet coughs up nearly 500 ft-lbs
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Yeah you can usually tell them when they dyno tune it what you're looking for. There is at least one member I know of on here that has quite a bit more torque than horsepower.

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I pretty sure your talking about ManicsWrX....HE'S the one with the gas guzzler..
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I think Honda has the answer to your question. They know how to make some crazy torque.
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HP is torque. Its just rpm times torque. You are not looking necessarily for more torque you are looking to make it at lower rpm. You can make more hp and actually lose torque or vis versa. Tell the tuner that you want you torque to get up high at lower RPMs. This will sacrifice your pontential for higher HP but its what you are looking for right?
In a perfect world with perfect gear ratios the car with more hp always wins reguardless of how much torque it has.

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getting torque is the easy part, getting lots of it low enough to really utilise its potential is the hard part, the easy way is to get as much as you can then get the gearing of your diffs best to suit your powerband. ie if your peak torque is at 5500-6000 go for the lowest final drive you can get hold of, 4.44 is the best final drive for a big horsepower 2 liter motor which revs to 8000rpm and beyond.

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those of you who have tuned for torque specifically... what is the most noticable change for having high torque numbers ?
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I went from 165 to 235 ft-lbs. The biggest difference was alot of pull on the low end. Quiker acceleration and as my gf found out if you pop the clutch with no throttle it will still pull itself into motion only on idle... (dont ask how we learned that one... sigh)
I did nopt get any gains really on my top end though, and i kinda want more top end power but to do that i have to shift my torque curve to higher rpms.

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