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post #1 of 16 Old 12-29-2008, 11:02 PM Thread Starter
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Hey guys, I've been wanting to run the cobb fp16g map for a while now, I've finally got the money for it injectors are on the way only thing slowing me down as of now is I am heavily debating on whether or whether not I should go with the fp16g, A buddy of mine was telling me the fp16g's are very poor quality, are known for having problems, and does not have very good customer service is this true? As of now that is the only reason that I have not yet ordered the turbo.

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So I probably want to stay away from them then I guess...Whats this about the break in process what exactly is the break in process on a new turbo?

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Kinda like breaking into a new car in general. Just keep the RPM's low and drive normally and try to stay somewhat out of boost.
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oh I thought you needed to like do things to the turbo it's self

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You need to prime the turbo with oil first before running.This can be done by pulling the fuel pump relay and trying to start the car for 15 seconds.This will fill the turbo with oil.

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So if I am not putting the turbo in a mechanic would know to do that right? Like that is common knowledge? Also since the fp16g is allegedly a bad turbo according to most people I have talked to about it is the blouch 16g any better? I mean it seems to be the exact same turbo so idk

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There's nothing wrong with the fp16g turbo. They sell thousands, there are bound to be a few bad apples. IMHO everyone's customer service is great when nothing is broken and horrible when it's busted. They're the largest sellers of these turbos for a reason ppl. They're specifically mentioned in the AP map because that's the exact turbo that COBB designed the map for.

Failure rates are never 0%. Like dumdum said, a lot of times people DO #### up the installation. Also, satisfied customers are far less vocal than ones trying to make enough noise to get hundreds of dollars out of the company. Put that together with good sales numbers and you are bound to see these type of posts.

Also, vendor bashing is against the rules here. I'm not calling out Kjott21 in particular here, I'm just saying if the subject becomes a discussion on forced performance's quality control or customer service, I will be forced to lock this thread.

Anyway, you should call the company and ask them what you need to install. Some ship with gaskets, some don't. Some recommend you buy new lines, others ship you new lines. I think FP is better than most about including everything you need but a phone call would help. Also, if you are not doing the install, talk to your installer. If they've done this a hundred times before, they can probably put most of your worries to bed.

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I didn't want this to become a vendor bash session, I just heard from a few friends some bad things about forced performance figured some of you guys might have ran it and could give me some advice on if they are in fact poor quality or if they are good.

So mosc what would your honest opinion be get the fp16g or a blouch 16g?

Also is it possible for me to run the blouch 16g on the cobb ots map? I talked to a friend who is modestly into tuning and he said it probably would not matter is that accurate?

Lastly I called cobb and they said you do not need the upgraded fuel pump for there tune, they are vacation now so I can't really contact them, but at the time I didn't think to ask why that would be if any one could explain why exactly you woudln't need the bigger fuel pump that'd be nice as well.

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My honest opinion is that blouch is better but costs too much. I'd buy from FP, I've been eying they're 20G in particular myself.

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Also is it possible for me to run the blouch 16g on the cobb ots map? I talked to a friend who is modestly into tuning and he said it probably would not matter is that accurate?
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You don't necessarily need a fuel pump with their OTS map because it's very safe. A custom tune will open it up more which requires more fuel and thus a bigger pump is usually in order.

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It's all in what you can afford and what you want. Everything you've heard so far is true. I seriously think FPs problems are with their larger turbos. They get oil starvation a lot of the time. I'll leave it at that. Because, I'm trying not to bash FP for once. Sorry mosc...
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Well guys I went ahead and ordered my stuff basically I am going to be running sti pinks, blouch 16g, 255 walboro fuel pump. Ordered it all from a place called certified tuning I believe and they gave me free shipping and are giving me a OTS map.

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They have a website or something? Congrats on the order to your new setup.
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Actually i am a fool and misheard on the phone when I called them the name of it it is "Surgeline tuning" Very nice bunch of guys very helpful and informative. Surgeline I guess sounds like certified to some degree >_> any how yes they have a site Surgeline Tuning | Engine Tuning Specialists Specifically a guy named Brandon was very helpful I talked to him through out the whole thing and he was more then able to answer all and any questions I threw his way.

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Cool! Update us when you have it all installed and tuned.
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