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Old 12-31-1969, 07:00 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Yes.. it's a manual boost controller. I love mine and could think of better things to spend $350 - $500 on than a boost controller that I can get for $50.


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Old 12-31-1969, 07:00 PM   #2 (permalink)
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But with an EBC, you completely waive the worry of spiking, overboosting in different weather conditions 9well, if you get an HKS and not a Blitz)... etc. I'm confused... isn't that worth the worry of a grenaded engine on a car that already runs pretty high boost levels in stock form?

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Old 12-31-1969, 07:00 PM   #3 (permalink)
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i will have to go with altersys on this one. With the fish valve device, it is great but very unpredictable. With the EBC you it keeps the boost very consistant but again the whole cost thing come back into play and yes anyone would rather spend 50 bucks than 500 but who wants the best control?


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Old 12-31-1969, 07:00 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I look at EBC's as insurance against grenaded engines. A new engine costs more than an EBC...

just my opinion...
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Old 12-31-1969, 07:00 PM   #5 (permalink)
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But I absolutly love that noise...

Knock, Who's there?

Detonati....KABOOM!

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Old 12-31-1969, 07:00 PM   #6 (permalink)
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ROTFLMAO!!!

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Thanks Altersys! Guess ya liked that one, huh? But I can only support your point of more consistency with the EBC rather than the fish valve.


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Old 12-31-1969, 07:00 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I gotta disagree... sorta. Fish valves are bad. However, it's not the only valve that can be used as an MBC. A ball and spring valve is far superior to a fish valve bleeder.

The fish valve is opened and allowed to bleed some signal away from the wastegate. Depending on weather, temps, and whatnot, the amount of signal bled away can change dramatically.

Now take ball and spring controllers. Signal from the pressure source enters the valve, and does not exit thanks to the little ball blocking the valve. When enough pressure builds in the valve it pushes to ball out and opens the valve. This also helps spool. With the bleeder, there is always some signal that makes it to the WG actuator allowing it to open slightly and slow spool. With the ball n spring valve, all that pressure is stuck inside the valve until the last second. Once the valve opens, signal makes it to the actuator and opens the WG. I've have NEVER had a spike with the boost controller that I'm running right now. The only advantage that I see to EBC is convenience. Not worth the $300 price difference to me.

BTW, I'm picking up a Greddy ProfecB for $100 + my manual in trade. At that price, it becomes easier to get the in-cab adjustability.


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Old 12-31-1969, 07:00 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Thanks for the detailed info, phast!

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Ohh yeah and I am apoligize that I only dwelled on the fish valve but that is the cheapest and one that most people know how to fabricate. The ball and spring is much much better and you are completly correct about that. Where are you getting that killer deal on the EBC?


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Buddy of mine wants to run upwards of 28psi on his built DSM and the profec cant hang. He wants my ball and spring instead.


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Old 12-31-1969, 07:00 PM   #12 (permalink)
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28 psi? Whats he got an avenger or eclipse? Well I guess you are getting a good deal then, kudos to you.


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The TurboXS unichip with the plug an play harnes has both an electronic boost controller that uses the cars factory solenoid and an auxiliary boost controller to fine tune the boost level.
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Old 12-31-1969, 07:00 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Edumicate the silly man, please... what is an MBC?

From my Z32tt days I'm thinking a manual boost controller, but people here seem to speak of them like they're more complex devices than that... any help is appreciated!

PS, If it does stand for Manual Boost Controller, what's the big fuss? Why aren't electronic boost controllers more popular with this car?

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question aobut the boost contoller

Hi, I have a question for who ever wants to answer:

Does the unichip with the "plug and play" wiring harness come with an electronic boost controller? Stage one includes a manual boost controller I believe. For 200 dollars less, and I think, less the plug and play harness, COBB sells the unichip with an electronic boost controller.

So what's the deal? Anyone like to unconfuse me, or tell me what should be more important, boost control and $200 in my pocket or plug and play

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