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Buying stage 3 mapping vrs tune shop

Hey everyone,

Was looking on opinions as to whether I should take my car into a tune shop (running on dyno), or would it be just as effective to get a stage 3 mapping for the car instead? I have done some research and have found similiar setups that go with a stage 3 mapping.


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2004 wrx w/ brand new factory long block
vf48 turbo
750cc dw injector
255 lph walbro fuel pump
headers
cateless up pipe
3" down pipe
3" greddy exhaust all the way back
tgv deletes

tranny:
ACT 12lb flywheel
6 puck ACT clutch
clutch delay delete

Thanks for the help.
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You need an intercooler.

And don't buy generic maps unless getting tuned at a shop isn't feasible.

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yes sorry forgot to list it, it has a sti intercooler (top mount) and thats the route i was leaning towards as well
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Hey everyone,

Was looking on opinions as to whether I should take my car into a tune shop (running on dyno), or would it be just as effective to get a stage 3 mapping for the car instead? I have done some research and have found similiar setups that go with a stage 3 mapping.


About the car:
2004 wrx w/ brand new factory long block
vf48 turbo
750cc dw injector
255 lph walbro fuel pump
headers
cateless up pipe
3" down pipe
3" greddy exhaust all the way back
tgv deletes

tranny:
ACT 12lb flywheel
6 puck ACT clutch
clutch delay delete

Thanks for the help.
For the love of all that is holy. You're going to crap that transmission out if its a aggressive tune and you drive it aggressively with a 6 puck clutch on stock gears. My old 06 WRX TR that I sold. The next owner put pretty much the mods on you're describing minus the clutch and flywheel. Got it tuned at my tuner and the young kid called back in 3 weeks saying his transmission is toast. The kid made about 320 something whp and 320 something wtq and his aggressive driving blew up the gear box.

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For the love of all that is holy. You're going to crap that transmission out if its a aggressive tune and you drive it aggressively with a 6 puck clutch on stock gears. My old 06 WRX TR that I sold. The next owner put pretty much the mods on you're describing minus the clutch and flywheel. Got it tuned at my tuner and the young kid called back in 3 weeks saying his transmission is toast. The kid made about 320 something whp and 320 something wtq and his aggressive driving blew up the gear box.

I planned on doing a mild aggressive tune... I want the motor to be able to last for an extended amount of time, yet still have plenty of power.
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The older (02-07) WRX engine is pretty capable with a good tuner and quality parts. However the same can not be said about the transmission. Now depending on driving habits and maintainance practices you could be alrite. Just be mindful when you are wanting to launch or drive the car spiritedly.

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The older (02-07) WRX engine is pretty capable with a good tuner and quality parts. However the same can not be said about the transmission. Now depending on driving habits and maintainance practices you could be alrite. Just be mindful when you are wanting to launch or drive the car spiritedly.

I appreciate the heads up. I will be sure to keep up regular maintenance on the tranny and motor.
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^ doesn't matter what kind of maint you do on that... The tranny WILL take a carp.

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Yep. A 4/6 puck has no place on a Subaru 5 speed. In running one you're eliminating the normal weak link in the drivetrain that helps reduce stress on your gears.
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^^^SO with that being sad would one be better off running a stock clutch? What would you suggest besides the expensive tranny upgrade.
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Ppg gear set??

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If you arent upgrading your transmission you are best to leave in a stock clutch. Anything that has more grab to greatly increases your chances of destroying your gears.

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Stock clutch won't hold his turbo upgrade.

With clutches you want to keep them as the weakest link in your transmission because otherwise the 1st thing that will break will be much more costly to replace. Look into something Like a Exedy Stage 1.
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I put over 8k miles on my stock clutch with a 20G. And it had almost 10k on it from stg2, and about 6k with stg one. And Im very sure it would have lasted longer if I wold not have mistreated it as much once the 20G was put on it. But dont get anything too grippy or you will be getting gears sooner than later.

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1. You have a different clutch than he does.
2. Your clutch will hold a 20G as long as you don't launch or do clutch drops.
3. You have a different clutch than he does.

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