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post #16 of 34 Old 06-29-2009, 03:57 PM
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oldfartracer, hope I didnt come off hostile and figured with your knowledge thats what you meant. But I didnt want the OP reading it and getting the wrong idea. But again you can run the 05 without EM, just not getting the most out of your setup. It doesnt have the issues the 06-07 do.

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But again you can run the 05 without EM, just not getting the most out of your setup. It doesnt have the issues the 06-07 do.
04+ require EM to run a TBE safely. There is a longer delay in the open to closed loop fueling that can be dangerous and cause a lean condition.
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What Subarus NEED engine management? While every Subaru will benefit from engine management, the 04+ turbo models (except STI) "require" it. The reason for this is the EPA mandated greater restrictions on ECUs for 2004+ and allow manufacturers to exclude one model. Subaru chose the STI as the exclusion, so the restrictions are not on the STI. The restrictions have to do with the open and closed loop fueling. To put the restrictions in a nutshell without being technical, there is a delay between open and closed loop fueling that can allow your 04+ Subaru to run lean during this crossover point in how your car gets fuel. Lean is dangerous as it produces detonation which is the #1 factor is blown pistons. In stock configuration, 04+ turbo models are fine, but modifications such as exhaust work or higher really necessitate the use of engine management as those mods cause the fueling issue to rear it's head. Yes, you can run certain mods for a short time until you get engine management, but you should never kid yourself on 04+ turbo models that bolt on modifications are fine without engine management.

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And so it begins...

I put a Borla CBE on my car within the first 2k miles. I'm at 31k now and I just did the Cobb Catted Down pipe this weekend and flashed to Stage 2.

Save up and buy one part at a time. Even if they sit in the garage for a few months until you can install them. Buying used is a good way to go. I got a used STI up-pipe for $50 and a Cobb Catted Down Pipe for $300. I only get the parts from someone local so I can inspect them. It takes longer, but that way I know what I'm getting.

One more thing. I'd stay away from the Ebay parts. You get what you pay for.

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Kjott, thanks for correcting me. I dont know if its becuase my 05 is an auto but it doesnt have a problem. It should be getting a reflash, maybe when I drop my 20G in, if not will have to wait until the engine/tranny are built on my 07.

Blk05, if you have to do it one part at a time, nothing wrong with that at all. I have been saving for what seems forever (3 yrs actually) finally getting around to where I should eventually be happy with my car.

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Newtothegame, no problem I make mistakes, I read the same thing that Kjott.
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ya ill diffently look into the v2 for prices and illl keep lookin for catback exhaust, now with the cobb accespoet u can control boost, air/fuel ratio alll that good stuff
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i went to cobbracing.com and it says that i should get the cobb short ram intake to run stage 1
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You can if you want, it didnt make a difference on my OTS stage 2 map. But next week when Im tuned with my 20G, hopefully will actually be noticable.

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From everything I've read you shouldn't need a short ram intake until you're past 300 whp.

The Cobb notes just say it's safe to run their intake, it's not required.

I just went for the drop in K&N panel filter. Cobb said this it OK too.

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ya that sounds good ill prob get the K&N filter
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i was lookin in the classifieds and there is a megan reacing catback and accessport V1 for 400 bucks what u think
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That doesn't seem too bad. The AccessPort V1 can do everything you need it to. I've never used the 0-60 timing that the V2 offers.

A good rule of thumb for used car parts is 50% of the price new. Take your time combing the nasioc forums and find something local so you can go inspect it before you buy. It will be worth the wait.

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ya i will ill look into that
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I would have to agree with most and say to pick up an Accessport first.

Also, if not done already tires would be a good idea in my mind.
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