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The 39 is damn close to the 16g as far as added power goes and can be had for just a few hundred bucks(used). It will be a good jump for you without spending all that money on the upgrade. leaving you plenty of money to replace the much needed stuff at your mileage.

Your up needs replaced before you throw that turbo back in. You got lucky leaving it in this long. And as for the struts. And this is just my opinion. If you are just building a more powerful DD, than you can do what I did and just buy the stock replacements. KYB makes and sells them for between 450-600. But you really should do end links and such. I have had no problems with my KYB's and think my car handles beautifully for my DD.

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The 39 is damn close to the 16g as far as added power goes and can be had for just a few hundred bucks(used). It will be a good jump for you without spending all that money on the upgrade. leaving you plenty of money to replace the much needed stuff at your mileage.

Your up needs replaced before you throw that turbo back in. You got lucky leaving it in this long. And as for the struts. And this is just my opinion. If you are just building a more powerful DD, than you can do what I did and just buy the stock replacements. KYB makes and sells them for between 450-600. But you really should do end links and such. I have had no problems with my KYB's and think my car handles beautifully for my DD.
I'll see if I can find a used 16g. I see blouch 16g, the non XT, goes for about 850 so I might do that. I've been looking at the KYB's GR-2. Which ones are you running the GR-2 or AGX? I don't know that I would really care for the AGX as it doesn't matter, but if I were racing I would go with the TiC Tok Spec-d or Koni's.

I will most definately replace the up, and it looks like I'm going to try to find a decent used or new 16g whether its the FP or Blouch and supporting mods. I'll go ahead and do the fuel rails as I remember reading about how cylinder 3 can have issues on the stock rails.

Have many people tried the Energy Suspension bushing kit off fastwrx.com?

With KYB struts, whiteline rear 22mm sway, TiC Bushings, and endlinks I'm looking about 1100 total with stock springs or should I install some new springs. I don't really want to lower my car at all as I mentioned.

Unless I can find some used parts for the turbo upgrade then I may have to wait until after basic. Once i have money in hand I can look around classifieds and see if I can find used TMICs, up-pipes, and 16g. I feel more comfortable buying injectors and pumps new.
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You look pretty set. I have the GR-2's (seem dead close if not almost exactly as stock)
If you want a better spring and dont really want to lower it. Check out RCE blacks. They are a few hundred bucks but I have only read good reviews on them. The drop is next to nothing. If you did want to drop than I would say the yellows would be great to have. Although most people pair the yellows with koni's or something simular.

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As far as up pipe goes, look for a used STI or 06-07 WRX up pipe. They are already catless and can/will save you some money. Its not a performance part so used shouldnt be a big deal on it. As far as the other parts, I would choose the TurboXS TMIC over the STI unit. The TurboXS is huge, and looks great, you can even find them used for a decent price also. As far as injectors I would look into deatschwerks at least, but if you plan on using the OTS map I would stick to the map notes as best as possible. And as far as the fuel rail, skip it, Been running my 20G setup without it for over 4yrs now without it and havent had an issue yet. Thats just my opinion though.

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I'm going to get the GR-2s and probably add the RCE blacks as I want to maintain ride height. I'll consider the RCE yellows though and look at some pics of a wrx with them. Thanks for the links, I will definately take the time and read through them, however, I have a splitting headache so I'm not going to right now.

I've seen that it can be an issue to increase performance and have issues with the stock rail leaning out cylinder 3, however with a mild turbo upgrade if its not necessity I won't do that until I compelely rebuild.
I've been looking at the TurboXS tmic which is what I'll get, hopefully I can find one in decent shape used.
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RCE Blacks will annihilate GR-2s. You will need the Tokicos or Koni Yellows if you want something that aggressive. Also, GR-2s will lift the front of your car up a bit. In addition to what ever you get, you will need new top hats as your old ones are worn.

RA gears are barely an upgrade on your car. Don't waste your time with them.

The fuel rails are not necessary. I would cut that from the list and add a clutch and factory Subaru flywheel. The stock one, if you're still on it, will not hold that much torque.
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OK, so I dont remember reading about the aggressiveness of the blacks, so If I was way off there... my appoligies.
Brfatal is sort of a guru with this. so I'll step back and let him do the teaching GL

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RCE black is a 285/269 ft lb spring. They have a way higher spring rate than most WRX springs, which usually run in the 170-210 and 160-190 range. Over-springing and under-damping will cause premature strut failure and cause a bouncy ride.
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RCE Blacks will annihilate GR-2s. You will need the Tokicos or Koni Yellows if you want something that aggressive. Also, GR-2s will lift the front of your car up a bit. In addition to what ever you get, you will need new top hats as your old ones are worn.

RA gears are barely an upgrade on your car. Don't waste your time with them.

The fuel rails are not necessary. I would cut that from the list and add a clutch and factory Subaru flywheel. The stock one, if you're still on it, will not hold that much torque.
I really wouldn't want my front up any higher how would I combat this? Is there another strut combo I could look at to keep good performance/price. As I mentioned I don't plan on road racing/autox. I do plan on some spirited driving through curvy mountain roads and dirt roads, but nothing that requires precision of competition. If the GR-2s would lift the front end would the AGX be a better choice for adjusibility? Or is there a spring I could use with the GR-2 that would keep me in a fairly factory ride height. I would sacrifice some ride height for a proper direction to go with springs/struts.

Also I replaced the stock clutch at roughly 70k miles with the factory flywheel
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What did you replace the clutch with?

And the only way to combat it is to add strut spacers in the rear to even it out. Some people like the AGX. I have no experience with them. But I do know it's a common complaint some people can't find a good setting for them. They only allow a few settings and people have said they go straight from too soft too too firm.

If you want to maintain your ride height, maybe try STI take off springs. They will still lower you some, but not as much as other aftermarket ones that are designed to do it.

Your strut choices really come down to GR-2, AGX, Koni Yellow inserts, Tokico Blues, Tokico D-Specs, '04 STI struts, or coilovers. The last option doesn't really sound like something you need.
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I put a OEM exedy clutch in

I was planning on getting the strut spacers as mostly what I have read about them says to do. What are the STi Take off springs, the 04 OEM STi springs? I would prefer to buy new that way I wouldn't have to install new ones for a while so the 04 STi struts I would imagine would be similar pricing to any other struts.
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If it comes down to it, I have a full set of 07 STi springs in my shed. Used, which is why I said if it comes down to that. lmk

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If it comes down to it, I have a full set of 07 STi springs in my shed. Used, which is why I said if it comes down to that. lmk
Whats a typical life expectancy for springs? I would be willing to consider STi used over my stock springs.
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