ok, i got some decent overtime this pay check, got a tax return and an selling some subs on e-bay. So, I should have about 1g to drop or so on my car, more if needed. I was debating on suspension or ecu mods. If I go with susp. I was planning on perrin/eibach springs, koni shocks and a ###### a eibach camber kit. if i go with the ecu, i'd ###### go with the UTEC, only i don't know hardly anything about tuning a car, i see that you can download maps though. i only have a custom cat-back exhaust so far as a mod. What are your suggestions?? If you think suspension i want the to get the best.
Depends on what you want to do with the car. If you want better handling, go with the suspension. If you want more power, go with the UTEC. Don't worry about not knowing how to tune it. There are many people on this board (myself included) who will be glad to help.
Cosmo is right its up to you and what you wanna do, but if I were you spend it on a UTEC, then later buy some lowering springs, sway bars and nice wheels and that should be a nice change. And if you need more suspension but a front strut bar. But personally I would go with UTEC and learn to tune it.
well the thing is i don't really plan on doing any other performance mods till i have it paid off(less than 2years). I wanted a new car for a reliable car so i don't always have to put money into it just to keep it running. i just figured suspension work b/c that will not void my drivetrain warranty. from what i understand the utec just plugs into the ecu, it maybe a little more difficult, but thats generally it. I figure i am going to need the utec someday anyway as a basis from my future mods i have planned.
If you had the choice what what would you get?? UTEC or Suspensions Mods???
Honestly I would take the UTEC first only because it is very easy to install and uninstall if needed to get warranty work done. And this will give you time to learn to tune it when you decide to start modding more.
so if i do get a u-tech do you suggest a e-bay sale and save $150 or buy it from a shop. I'm don't really like using ebay that much expecially for stuff that expensive.
I think they have octane challenged maps and if not, I am sure somebody on here will help you with it or wrxhackers.com might have the octane challenged.
I would go a complete suspension tip. If u bring that up in your desicion making choices then handling will be an important choice for u.
I would go lowered springs(tein,perrin,h&r,eibach,etc)=250
Front and rear sway bars plus rear end link = 400
koni shocks or kyb agx for like 450
Or engine management. There are more than one type available....
I happen to have a utec.. alot of members here do too.
but there are others.. ANd they all run a bout 1 g.
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I'd go with the suspension. The UTEC will get you some good power benefits, but if you want reliability and a completely worry-free commute, just keep the engine management stock and get that thing handling better. Then, when you are paid off on the note, just start building the engine the way you want it, and add the appropriate engine management when you get to that point. Just my two cents
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One thing in favor of buying the UTEC is that you have the large amount of cash needed. The suspension stuff you can do bit by bit. Yeah, I know you should do the springs and struts together. But, you can do swaybars, links, camber kits, etc. as need (or your wallet) dictates.
On that note, are camber kits required when lowering a WRX? I know this can vary from car to car - most Hondas need compensation (or is that Honda drivers, hee), while F-Bodies don't. With Mustangs, it varies from car to car!
By the way, before I get nasty responses from the Honda drivers, that was a joke.
As far as suspension is concerned, I was going to do struts and springs at the same time. I can R&R most things, but i do not have the tools nessacery(sp??) to do it, so i will have to pay for installation. Springs($220), Shocks($550) + alignment is gonna be $1000. I do have the money right now to do out and get the Utec in cash. There is a dyno day around here tommorrow for turboforum.net and i was thinking about going, maybe i'll go get my utec today.....So many decisions. Also with suspension, you have so many choices to make with like 10 kinds of springs, 5 kinds of shocks, with the ecu, in my eyes you have just 1 choice, UTEC.
for what you are looking at, i would go with suspension mods first. get it handling well, and learn how to run it stock first, and go from there.
what year is yours? an 02-03 i assume?
and for the camber kits....i dropped mine and SEVERAL other cars with different brands, and as long as you like an aggressive camber setting, and drive it like it should be, you wont have tire wear due to camber. make sure the toe is set all the way around after the drop, though.
however, if you are lowering it for looks only (which you should be shot for that ) then you will need camber bolts to take care of your neg. camber.
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) then you will need camber bolts to take care of your neg. camber.
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