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thekamikaze kid 01-20-2013 02:08 PM

short ram advice
ok so i just found out that my car was never tuned for the perrin short ram intake that was on when i bought it. question is what should i do now? are there any intakes i can put on that dont require a tune that will give me the same performance? i dont have any tuneras in my area, so i cant get a tune. should it be okay without one?

the RIOT act 01-20-2013 03:40 PM

short ram advice
I'd put the stock one back on till you can either tune it or get an AP. Most manufacturers claim you won't need a tune or set off CEL's with their intakes, but that's not true. There's a couple you could put on and likely not set off a CEL (perrin/spt/cobb) but without the tune it wouldn't be doing much of anything for you besides making you lean out. If there's no tuners anywhere around you I'd just invest in an AP from Cobb. Be warned its flame on with this thread lol! I hate when people say "search it!" when most questions can easily be answered in seconds rather than being a jerk about it though.

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thekamikaze kid 01-20-2013 04:10 PM

Ah i see. i did a little research and it didnt really answer my question so i figured id throw it out there. the main thing i wanted to know is will my engine screw up if not tuned for it. btw i cant putt the stock one on cause i dont have it.

the RIOT act 01-20-2013 04:14 PM

short ram advice
Yeah it'll def run lean untuned whether ram or cold air and you could absolutely damage your engine. I'd say take it off till you have the supporting mods to go stage 2 with a protune.

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Fidrat 01-20-2013 04:30 PM

Remember he is talking about an 03.

If you can't find the answer in this link than your question can't be answered. Please read the WHOLE article.

[url=] - Engine, Exhaust, Suspension, Brakes, ECU Tuning and more for your Subaru; STi, WRX, Legacy, Forrester and Mitsubishi; Lancer, EVOlution Evo-8, EVO-9, EVO-10 and Eclipse[/url]

the RIOT act 01-20-2013 04:38 PM

short ram advice
True. Bolt on mods could be different for your year.

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thekamikaze kid 01-20-2013 04:41 PM

great link thanks! my car was douched out when i bought it. no biggie i guess the only question left is will i really get much of a power gain if i put in the perrin filter with the stock air box?

Fidrat 01-20-2013 05:12 PM

From the last paragraph of the link...

These filters are usually re-usable and are less restrictive than ordinary ?paper? filters. They are great because they [U]will add[/U] horsepower,[U]do not[/U] require tuning, and can be cleaned with a special kit that is inexpensive. The factory box will also flow enough air to handle 375+ hp.!Thumbs Up

thekamikaze kid 01-20-2013 05:20 PM

i read it, i read it, lol. Im just guessing it isnt much of a power gain. compared to the sri or cai.

pzr2874 01-20-2013 05:36 PM

Dryflow filters are a bit nicer than... lets say a K&N oiled filer/COBB

Someone on here has a stock unit i'm sure. Drop a dryflow in there and reset your ECU.

You get an AP yet?

thekamikaze kid 01-20-2013 05:47 PM

havnt decided yet if im getting an ap or not, i gotta do a lot of research tomorrow. :D

Fidrat 01-20-2013 06:21 PM

It's really hard to beat the stock air-box with a intake silencer delete and a hi-flow drop-in filter.

I did this with a K&N drop-in filter. (or the drop-in of your choice) And a velocity stack from Auto zone. [url][/url]. Look at posts #3-#7.:cool: I doubt I will ever need or find anything that works better than this.!Thumbs Up

Fidrat 01-20-2013 07:15 PM

[quote=pzr2874;289930]Dryflow filters are a bit nicer than... lets say a K&N oiled filer/COBB
Drop a dryflow in there and reset your ECU.[/quote] I can't seem to find a dryflow drop-in for an 02-07 WRX I even Googled it!:confused:

pzr2874 01-21-2013 09:10 AM

Shoot... I swear they made them. It looks like 2008-up AEM makes them.

Did they stop making them?

Sorry...bouuuut thaaaaaaaaat.

thekamikaze kid 01-21-2013 10:54 AM

just got this replay from perrin, what do u guys think?

"Thanks for your interest in PERRIN! The normal sized PERRIN short ram intake does not require a tune if you are running the factory tune. If you are already running a custom tune, you will want to look into getting another tune. If you have any more questions, let me know, thanks!"

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