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Old 09-17-2003, 03:47 PM   #1 (permalink)
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boost controllers

is there a benefit of having an electronic one over a manual one???

i was looking into the tsx dual stage manual one, how is this???? is there a point in having a dual stage one???

also, what exactly is a turbo timer for???
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Old 09-17-2003, 03:57 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm pretty sure that the turbo timer lets your turbo system wind down after you turn off your car. it is supposed to increase the life span of your turbo.
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Old 09-17-2003, 04:46 PM   #3 (permalink)
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First of all, an electronic boost controller (the high end ones) are much better than a manual boost controller. The advantage of the dual stage manual model is to allow a preset boost level for street driving, then a higher level for racing. But, do so at your own risk...

The best thing, although the most expensive, is a UTEC. It not only controls boost, it controls fuel, igntion, and several other parameters.
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Old 09-17-2003, 05:26 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Dont get a turbo timer. You dont need one on a WRX, because the car has a coolant line. Also the auto boost control will allow you to set boost more precisely.


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Old 09-17-2003, 08:35 PM   #5 (permalink)
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BUT, IMO....get a turbo timer. coolant is one thing....oil flow is another. keep this in mind: you shut your car off, after driving her hard, engine has been turning high RPMs, turbo still spinning HIGH rpms, ie, 50k+. engine oil flow stops....turbo is on a shaft, with a bushing on stock and VF30 turbos....no oil flow...gets hot...etc..
REMEMBER: objects spinning at EXTREMELY high speeds, with no lubrication, tend to get hot...and makes good damage!


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Old 09-17-2003, 10:04 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Ehhhh...this thing has gone back and forth so many times. The fact of the matter is, there has been no reported cases of damage caused to a turbo from simply shutting down the car (WRX specific). Moreover, if you drive your car hard, then you better have some sense and keep it running for like 30 seconds and then turn it off. I mean thats what I do, and the stock turbo is fine. The turbine inside looks like its new and spins around freely when I push it. In the end, its your choice. You can spend 100 bux on a TT and have "peace" of mind, or save that money and spend on something else, like an up-pipe.


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Old 09-19-2003, 09:09 PM   #7 (permalink)
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do you need a mbc or ebc if you get a UTEC, i want to get the txs utec but i thought i needed a boost controller. does the utec take care of this??
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Old 09-19-2003, 09:20 PM   #8 (permalink)
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The UTEC controls boost, so you don't need anything else. No MBC or EBC.
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Or do what I did , buy a $70 turboxs MBC, basic one , install a boost gauge( maybe a greddy 60mm like mine, ($140). 210 dollars you can run 1 bar(14.4lb) pretty safely UNTIL YOU CAN SAVE UP THE 1k for the utec. The boost gauge is always a good buy, sell the MBC to a noobie for 40, call it a day. Go out with the 40 bucks and get drunk.:>)

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I recommend the Profec B. It is very easy to use and there are three knobs, one for low boost setting, one for high boost setting and one for boost response. The boost response function can help the turbo hit full boost faster and reduce turbo lag slightly. It is a simple boost controller without any displays so you will need a boost gauge to calibrate the boost settings you want.
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Old 09-26-2003, 02:09 PM   #12 (permalink)
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I recommend the Profec B. It is very easy to use and there are three knobs, one for low boost setting, one for high boost setting and one for boost response. The boost response function can help the turbo hit full boost faster and reduce turbo lag slightly. It is a simple boost controller without any displays so you will need a boost gauge to calibrate the boost settings you want.
For the price of ythe profec B, you could send your ecu out to COBB for a Reflash. Then you will have more boost with more fuel. not just boost. Much safer. and they modify alot of other parameters too.
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For the price of ythe profec B, you could send your ecu out to COBB for a Reflash. Then you will have more boost with more fuel. not just boost. Much safer. and they modify alot of other parameters too.
How long does this take?, obviously the car is undrivable without a ecu.


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Well! my reference to the Profec B was only for those who haven't had their ECU reflashed and only wants to use a Apexi S-AFC with a boost controller. This is a simple device to use for those who do not have a lot of time to spend and a lot of money to spend on mods. I believe the combined cost of the S-AFC and the Profec B wouldn't cost more than $1,000 in the US.
I do admit that if you are running a programmable ECU kit, you could set your boost via the control unit and have the fueling to match.
I am currently using the Profec B and running a aftermarket fuel controller from UK (can't remember the brand) and a front mount intercooler. I have dusted M3s, Porsche 911s and the JDM '02 Sti with mods.
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Old 09-26-2003, 09:03 PM   #15 (permalink)
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Cobbs ECU reflash is $400.00 ..

http://cobbtuning.com/wrx/accessecu.html

you can call them and tell them what mods you have on your car and they will reprogram for them.
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