350whp?

Imprezless · 07-11-2008, 05:17 PM

Whats it going to take to make 350 to 375 to the wheels with a WRX.

wrxman420 · 07-11-2008, 05:25 PM

15k easily, if not more...

Imprezless · 07-11-2008, 05:39 PM

You can't be serious. If so thats crazy.

wrxman420 · 07-11-2008, 05:42 PM

That is if you want a RELIABLE 350whp car. It can be done for cheaper, but again It may not be as reliable.

Imprezless · 07-11-2008, 05:48 PM

F bodies make that with just bolt ons, Cobras make that stock. I don't know too much about the ej20 but it sounds like it's better off in a kia.

wrxman420 · 07-11-2008, 06:06 PM

Yes but you may not need 350-375whp to beat a cobra or f bodie. If you can drive well enough you might be able to beat them with 300. You may be better off startign out with an sti, since they already come with a better motor, transmission, among other things.

newtothegame · 07-12-2008, 02:21 AM

I will take my stock 07 WRX against that Cobra in the snow any day. But if you want to get alot of power might as well do it right and not have to worry about it.

Nic17fly · 07-12-2008, 06:46 AM

I will take my stock 02 WRX against a cobra thru a mountain pass any day! You don't buy a Subaru for lots of power, you buy it for a well rounded driving expierence.

Imprezless · 07-12-2008, 07:27 AM

SVT Cobras have larger brakes and a much better suspension than a WRX. They have IRS and not the standard solid axle set up found in even the new Mustangs. Fords Special Vehicle Team put a lot of time and effort into those cars. They are not just a regular old Mustang. I don't know how they compare to the STi but I promise you they can run through the turns faster than a WRX. Well rounded driving experience? Im sure under steering through turns at 35mph is quite an "experience" but eventually your going to need more power.

dumdum · 07-12-2008, 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Imprezless

F bodies make that with just bolt ons, Cobras make that stock.

This statement clearly shows how little knowledge you have.Are you really trying to compare the hp ratings a V8 that is almost 3X the displacement to a 4 cylinder?Try looking at hp per cubic inch or per liter.If a 2.0L WRX was a 4.0L it would be rated at 456 hp.Also a WRX has a 25% drive train loss due to AWD compared to a RWD 10-15% drive train loss.FYI stock for stock a STI would leave the Cobra in the dust as far as handling.The WRX is not far behind due to the crappy stock tires.I love people like you that are so wrapped up in dyno #'s.You understand that those #'s don't mean crap right?There are as much as 20% variation from dyno to dyno as well as a ton of different other variables that come into play like elevation,ambient temps,humidity,the tune itself,octane,supporting mods..............

Imprezless · 07-12-2008, 08:23 AM

Horsepower per liter means nothing, if so the Honda Civic Si would be just awesome. Actually, I'm really sorry. I didn't realize how much power a 4.0 WRX would make in theory. I guess I really am ignorant. You are just as wrapped up in defending low dyno numbers as I am in actually making high ones. "Well the WRX is only 2.0, and there is drive train loss and this and that blah blah blah." All cars face those same hurdles when it comes to making power. So I don't really get what you are trying to say.

pzr2874 · 07-12-2008, 08:30 AM

Then TRY to understand what everyone is saying..... Go get an American POS and have done w/it. Plain and simple. Have you ever driven a Suby ? Apparently not. And I don't think 15K is a safe range.... More in the lines of 8-10K doing the stuff yourself here and there..... And that is including the suspension mods.

Sorry, didn't mean to offend... you have already purchased a couple POS's. You should know all this .... Don't you have a trans-am ? Have you even gone into a cloverleaf w/it......?

Case closed.

Imprezless · 07-12-2008, 12:39 PM

Right now I do have a 01 WS.6 and I have driven WRX's before. I think the real issue is that a lot of you guys haven't driven a powerful RWD car and don't understand that they can go through turns just as fast as anything else. Have you ever heard of a Z06? American. Big motor. Tons of power. A WRX could never hope to compete with a Z06 and while a Trans Am isn't quite a vette it's not some car that is only fast in a straight line. I do like WRX's and I'm not trying to just bash them and argue with everyone I just think that people give the WRX more credit than it's due. And even look at M3's and such. They are much faster, RWD and out handle Evo's and STis. I think most Subaru owners have some sort of complex and can't accept that maybe they don't drive the greatest car ever created. Also I was considering getting a WRX before but after test driving them I decided not to. They felt underpowered and didn't handle any better than my old DSM's. If I come across a good deal on a STi I'd gladly own one but I don't think just a WRX would keep me entertained in the power department.

dumdum · 07-12-2008, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Imprezless

Right now I do have a 01 WS.6 and I have driven WRX's before. I think the real issue is that a lot of you guys haven't driven a powerful RWD car and don't understand that they can go through turns just as fast as anything else. Have you ever heard of a Z06? American. Big motor. Tons of power. A WRX could never hope to compete with a Z06 and while a Trans Am isn't quite a vette it's not some car that is only fast in a straight line.I do like WRX's and I'm not trying to just bash them and argue with everyone I just think that people give the WRX more credit than it's due. And even look at M3's and such. They are much faster, RWD and out handle Evo's and STis. I think most Subaru owners have some sort of complex and can't accept that maybe they don't drive the greatest car ever created. Also I was considering getting a WRX before but after test driving them I decided not to. They felt underpowered and didn't handle any better than my old DSM's. If I come across a good deal on a STi I'd gladly own one but I don't think just a WRX would keep me entertained in the power department.

I have been driving and wrenching on cars for 20 years.I have owned several V8 muscle cars including a Chevelle SS.I have driven plenty of newer V8 RWD cars that my friends and family have owned as well.You are comparing $50K RWD sports cars to $30-$35K AWD cars.Then you can't understand why a 2.0L AWD car can't make 350 whp like a V8.Your comparing apples to oranges.Anytime you wanna rallycross your Firebird against my WRX you let me know.You do understand what these cars and Evo's were built and designed for right?But yet you want to try and compare them to M3's and Corvettes.Sorry bro,you just got a lot to learn.Nobody is denying that V8 can make power and handle well.You just can't seem to understand that considering these cars were not designed for launching at the local dragstrip and neck snapping torque.And the 06+ STI's and especially the 08 are VERY nibble and fast in stock form and pretty amazing with just a simple ECU flash and a TBE.If you want to compare the STI to the Corvette,thats a closer match.But comparing the Corvette to a WRX is like comparing an STI to your Firebird.

dumdum · 07-12-2008, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Imprezless

All cars face those same hurdles when it comes to making power. So I don't really get what you are trying to say.

The hurdles although the same,are not always equal.You don't get what I'm trying to say because you really don't have the knowledge behind you to understand it.Actually Honda motors are quite impressive.Their engineering has always been groundbreaking.