I would love to get Utec, but my serial number does not match the list that the Utec works with. So I have to wait
I've had a MBC in my posesion since I had my Civc turbo'd, but from what I know on the 04's is that 1st & 2nd gear are regulated to 8-9psi and then upped to 14psi.
Will a MBC be able to raise boost in 1st and 2nd or is that still regulated by the computer? With out a reflash, when will Utec's problems with 04 going to be fixed?
2nd Greddy had a turbo upgrade kit, but does it deal with fuel upgrades?
I can't find anyone that has the upgrade, but I want to know whats included, their website doesn't say S***
Originally posted by WRX_STi I believe TXS sells their stage 4 kit with a new fuel pump.
Yes, bigger fuel pump, injectors, plugs, and turbo. You don't want to mess with your boost unless you're going to mess with your fuel. No sense running your engine lean and doing damage for a few HP. DO NOT run a bigger turbo without the proper fuel upgrades and engine management.
After looking at what the kit includes, I think its safe to say, it doesn't come with a upgrade fuel pump.
"includes up-pipe adapter, Type R wastegate, down pipe, and necessary hardware req. Airinix intake kit."
However, I would still follow Blue's advice and check with Greddy themselves. Even so, whats that to hinder you from buying it anyways. You can always buy a better fuel pump. However, if it was me, I would just buy each piece seperatedly. It might also save you a buck or two if you shop from the right places. Good luck with everything.
Even if it did/does come with a fuel pump. You still MUST have bigger injectors. I personally wouldn't buy a turbo kit from a company that didn't supply both the pump and the injectors with the kit. They should know full well that by flowing the extra pounds and the added air flow that the WRX's stock fuel capacity would be maxed out. Not to mention some sort of fuel management (And don't tell me they're saying the e-manage would be ideal) If they don't know all that, then I surely wouldn't want to purchase from them.
Well as I said before I would love to get Utec, but its doesn't work with my ECU since its an 04. I already checked the serial number. My WRX is my only car, so I can't send my ECU out for reflash. So what fuel management system can I get??
Originally posted by WRX_2NR Well as I said before I would love to get Utec, but its doesn't work with my ECU since its an 04. I already checked the serial number. My WRX is my only car, so I can't send my ECU out for reflash. So what fuel management system can I get??
When is Utec suppose to fix this 04 problem?
See, that's why this forum is a problem. It makes all the n00bs who don't really search anywhere else think that only the things they hear on this forum will work, or are thee only acceptable things for their cars.
The UTEC and Reflash are NOT the only types of engine management you can get. Sure, they may be the easiest to first hook up.
But you've got: LINK, NEMESIS, MOTEC, AEM (When they release it) and a plethora of others. Not to mention you could just send out your EUC to Cobb and have it back in 3 days. You can't be without a vehicle for 3 days?
The Hydra Nemesis 2.0 offers the user with all the ease of “Plug and Play” Technology without losing any of the performance enhancing capability and safety net offered in the newer OEM engine management systems.
Because Hydra Engine Management systems come with *Dynamometer tuned Factory base maps and utilizes all factory sensors, it offers the user a true “Plug and Play” engine management system.
Specifications of the Nemesis 2.0
- Dual 16bit 25MHz Processors
- Plug and Play
- Windows programmable Software w/ Direct Serial cable Connection
- Uses All Factory Sensors (Might need additional sensors, e.g.: 1990 to 1993 Miata will need air temp sensor and knock sensor)
- Retains all factory functions
· EGR
· Purge Control
· Power Steering
· Coolant and AC Control
· Factory Intercooler Spray, EVOVIII and Sti
· Air Conditioning
· Boost Control
· Idle Speed ( Both Solenoid and Stepper Types)
· Cold Start Compensation
· Acceleration and Deceleration Enrichment
· Wideband )2 Air/fuel Long and Short term Control
· Programmable Closed Loop Knock Control
· Check Engine Light Control
· Backup Spark tables for Limp mode
- Fuel map 32 by 32 grid styled
- Ignition Map 32 by 32 grid styled
- Two Mappable Variable 3D Cam Maps 24 by 24 grid styled (VTC/AVCS/VVTi/Vanos)
- Aux 3D Fuel Map 32 by 32 Grid Styled with switched input (For Dry NOS or Race Gas)
- Aux 3D Ignition Map 32 by 32 Grid Styled with switched input (For dry NOS or Race Gas)
- *3D Antilag Fuel Map 32 by 32 Grid Styled with switched input
- *3D Antilag Ignition Map 32 by 32 Grid Styled with switched input
- built-in 3 bar map sensor replaces all MAF or AFM with Speed Density for up to 30psi (up to 45 psi with optional 5 bar map --sensor)
- Full Sequential Fuel injection and Ignition control for up to 8 cylinders
- Drives all types of injectors without the need of a ballast box (peak & hold and Saturated)
- Individual Fuel Injector Trim
- Injector Phasing
- Wide Band Closed Loop Lambda Control for true Auto mapping of Air / Fuel 32 by 32 Grid Style (requires Optional software upgrade and NTK L1H1 Wideband Oxygen Sensor)
- Continuous Closed Loop Air / Fuel Correction 32 by 32 Grid Style (requires Optional software upgrade and NTK L1H1 Wideband Oxygen Sensor)
- Tachometer Drive
- Coolant temperature and Air Temperature correction for Fuel and Timing.
- Barometric Compensation for normally aspirated cars(with optional map sensor)
- Dyno tuned Base Map included (on 91 octane)For new applications only
- *Antilag Control
- Soft-Cut Rev Limits
- Boost Limit
- Electronic Boost Control
- 2-step launch control (Switched Input)
- Definable Knock Control (two setting amplification with definable threshold) with adjustable fuel compensation.
- Backup Spark map strategy when excessive lean condition or detonation is detected
- Limited Onboard Data logging (Unlimited data logging through PC)
- Password Protection for Intellectual Property
- Many Programmable 2D outputs (Staged injection, intercooler spray, water spray, turbo timer, shift light, VTEC, fuel pump, etc...)
No, nobody has said that the UTEC is the only solution. However, it is the best for most applicaitons. TurboXS supposedly has the issues with the 04 ECU worked out. A reflash is just a band-aid fix in my opinion. And, people always ask "What do you recommend?", not "What is the least expensive option?" or "What are all the different options?"
So I guess from now on, whenever anyone asks about their WRX we will point them your direction, since we obviously have no idea what we are talking about....
Originally posted by WRX_2NR Sounds like Nemesis is what I want.
I want a plug and play, tunable piggyback.
Thats why I wanted Utec, till they got this 04 problem.
I can't wait 3-day for my ECU, plus cost of reflash everytime I do something.
I check into Nemesis. Thanks for the help!
Whoa there, it doesn't work that easy..... you need to research first bud. Here, go to THIS site and look under Engine Management.
For one, the Nemesis is not a Piggy Back computer, it's a standalone, offering "Plug and Play" like capability. Also, it hasn't been released yet (Supposed to be VERY SOON, as in the end of Feb.) and thirdly, they will only offer 20 units on their first production run. It takes time to make more. So you may have some waiting to do if your heart is now content with the Nemesis. Also, being that it's new, there will probably be some bugs.
Ahh... I see. So, it's better to recommend something that has not been released, that nobody knows much about, that you probably can't get anyways, and that there will probably be no customer support for, than to recommend something that has been around for years, and has the best customer service of any company out there...
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