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#16 Old 05-31-2011, 08:01 PM
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ok its been a minute since i seen this and ive been more aggressive on the street so lets start new.

first i was STILL wrong on everything!! i found this paper and its where im at now. what do you guys think about these numbers? again i like to drag first, save tires second, hard street drive third.



now if im getting on the highway fast (60-80mph) in a long right hand circle entrance ramp i can obviously go fast, hence the 60-80mph turning speed depending on the ramp. car feels stable, tires do not squeal at all and if i went back to the same ramps all the time i bet i could keep increasing the speed. now some ramps at 80 for example the car does feel "light", almost like the tires are about to lose grip and ill go sliding off. however it also feels like if i punch it ill just Ken Block the ramp and drive sideways the rest of the way.

with that said if i enter the same ramp but im not smooth and just jerk the wheel real fast to turn in and im hard on the breaks (lets say i was doing 90 but need to slow to 70 to take the turn) the cars feels unstable and wants to walk out of the turn. also im down to 3020 lbs and the car feels very light. like the steering wheel feels light and the car doesnt have enough weight pushing down on my 245's, feels like it can just take off an fly which to me is not a great feeling.

im sure my numbers will tell guru's what im talking about since i cant explain it well. based on my 1, 2, 3's what would you do?

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Ok, so it is -2* in the rear.... That's a bit much.... Wait till JR gets on here... He'd be able to tell more.

I bet a rear sway would help... Then take it for a spin and adjust it as needed.

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Bump for whoever JR is.

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I used to be JR

With that much neg camber in the rears and not enough up front to match, you'll definitely have some interesting handling quirks when approaching the limits of grip. Without knowing what you're running for spring rates and sways, I would still have to recommend getting the neg camber in front closer to or at -2.0 and dial the rears back a little to -1.5 or less. A little toe-in (1/8"ish) at the rear will help with braking stability. You want to stick with zero toe in the front.


Edit: just looked at page 1 and see what you're running for springs and dampers. My advice is upgraded sways FTW, I'd also soften up the Konis a little on the front

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ok Hi.

so first i cant fix the rear -2.0 unless i spend $300-$400 or something on lower control arms. where its at is all that can be done with OEM parts, zero adjustability.

second with the OEM sways at 19mm front 16mm rear what do you think is a good size to go with if i do not go back to the alignment shop?

last, i ended up hardening the rear shocks at 75% also. guess ill try out putting them both back to 50% hard.

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Unfortunately I have no first hand experience with the '08 and up suspension. I run 25mm F&R bars with the rear being adjustable on my bugeye. With -2.8 up front and -1.6 rear, very comparable spring rates to yours and konis, it had excellent lateral grip.

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Hahhaha... Sorry Cullen.

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wow! 50%-50% blows for "racing". took a corner by my house like always and the tires finally squealed. turned right and front left was not happy. also the car bouned around like it was on a trampoline. however it does seem a little softer for bumps.

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