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NeverSummer 03-10-2013 12:28 PM

Cobb ap?
 
I'm new to the forums. I currently have a 13 sti w an ext warranty that was included w my car. My cbe exhaust should be here this week. I'm warr for 100k. This is my 3rd subaru. 07 wrx and 09 forester xt are my two previous. My question is this....is the cobb ap a safe way to go for a stage 1? That being said, can I still bring it to the dealer and remain under the radar? Is the cobb undetectable? I will be doing a stage 2 later down the road. Thanks in advance.


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the RIOT act 03-10-2013 12:48 PM

Cobb ap?
 
Cobb's AP is def a good option for just a stage 1. It sounds like you're concerned about warranty (which I don't blame you) as so was I, but even with the AP it's going to show its been flashed and they can see it if they want to. Although there's not a lot to make them check that if not provoked, they'll be able to see it either way. You're also doomed if you leave the factory tune on there so it's a catch 22 unfortunately. So that's why I did what I did. Figured if I'm not gonna leave the factory tune on there due to safety reasons, I might as well get the minimum of the supporting mods needed to go stage 2 and make it worth my while of paying for a tune. If I were staying with a stage 1 I'd just go AP, but after stage 1 you should be going pro tune IMO. Hope this helped in some way.


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NeverSummer 03-10-2013 12:49 PM

Cobb ap?
 
Anyone have/had the cobb? Like it hate it?


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NeverSummer 03-10-2013 12:50 PM

Cobb ap?
 
Thanks riot. Certainly did help!!!


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NeverSummer 03-10-2013 12:59 PM

Cobb ap?
 
Riot....there's no way around the dealer seeing if its been flashed or not? the dealer would have to really dig in to see if its been flashed? Excuse my inexperience w this kind of stuff!


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the RIOT act 03-10-2013 02:14 PM

Cobb ap?
 
I'm not TERRIBLY knowledged on how they go about checking your ECU, but I seriously doubt it's done at a dealership level and more of a mission than any of them want to get involved in. Without a blown motor/tranny/turbo I doubt you'll ever run into them wanting to touch your ECU. Just mod/tune safely and you'll be all set IMO. Obv there's a risk with doing any mods/tuning, but that's why you stay off eBay and work with well known tuners lol! It would certainly suck if something legitimately went wrong with one of the above (not due to mods/tuning) and they do deny your warranty claim after checking the ECU, but that's the gamble. IMO it was very clear to me the stock tune had to go though, so I did what I had to do to make sure my Rex is still alive AFTER my warranty is gone. There's a gamble with stepping off the sidewalk to cross the street too...doesn't stop you from crossing though right? And your life is more valuable than a 30k sport sedan lol! See how I rationalize my voided warranty?! Lol....


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NeverSummer 03-10-2013 02:51 PM

Cobb ap?
 
Yea man I agree. Thanks for your input!


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the RIOT act 03-10-2013 03:00 PM

Cobb ap?
 
I'm sure some others will chime in with their opinions and maybe a less bias opinion on AP or not. I usually try an keep my opinions generalized rather than bias though, as everyone's style and opinion is different and there's nothing wrong that. Factual info can be hard to find sometimes on a forum lol! There's some really educated and down to earth people on here though unlike pretty much all WRX forums. Looking forward to your build thread either way.


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06_hawk_eye 03-10-2013 03:49 PM

Cobb ap?
 
I've used my ap for about 6 months and have been ruining stage 2 for my 4 months. Haven't had any problems it's a good choice if you don't plan on adding many parts pass normal stage 2 such as turbo back exhaust and Cobb intake or stock intake. It's good because you can monitor a lot of things. I bought mine used on Craigslist for 200 bucks unmarried to a the car. Check on the forums and Craigslist you can normally find a pretty good deal just make sure it's unmarried before you buy


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09bluewrx 03-10-2013 03:59 PM

Re: Cobb ap?
 
Have had my ap for about a month now and love it. Im flashed to stage 1 with the Cobb SF intake and no problems what so ever. Like previoulsy posted u can moniter a lot of things with it, troubleshoot with it i could go on and on lol

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rcatabay078 03-13-2013 01:46 AM

Cobb AP?
 
First things first, congratulations on the purchase of your new car and welcome to community! Your current situation reminded me of how I started when I get my 2010 WRX. I would say things kind of fell into place because back then I've never heard of this Cobb AP but I have seen it being advertised in a lot of a car magazines. At first I thought its just some new aftermarket product, but I tell you since i've had it I'm in love with how this tiny things does to your car! I Agree with most members here I know they will as well with what i'm about to tell you, I suggest keep your car the way it is for now. Remember that your car is is already running with a lot of power out from the factory and will dust any average car out there ( not encouraging you, but its fun just be safe and don't get pulled over:D) As far as voiding the warranty, I encourage you to read the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. Basically says that a manufacturer cannot deny a warranty claim because of an aftermarket part, unless the part in question actually CAUSED the problem that the warranty claim is about. I could this could help you out, and good luck!:D

rcatabay078 03-13-2013 01:48 AM

Also, I'm running on Stage 2 +SF Intake with TurboXS DP and TurboXS Catback Exhaust.

synolimit 03-14-2013 06:07 PM

[quote=NeverSummer;291526]Anyone have/had the cobb? Like it hate it?


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Cobb maps are on the weak side but generally safe. People have blown up motors on them but how where they driving, how hard did they drive before hand? Only they'll know.

As for a good option I disagree! $600 for a simple flash is crazy. Everyone has a laptop, the cable is cheap, and a good stage 1, stage 2 map from a good tuner is still a lot cheaper. Plus that tuner will tweak his tune for free if need be for you for where you live, your gas, your elevation etc. off the shelf maps are to risky for me since its made for people at sea level and 10,000 feet from 91, 92, 93 gas of all kinds. I'd rather have more, safer, cheaper power.


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