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Nathan21 10-10-2013 02:03 PM

Catless DP VS Test Pipe DP
 
Ok, so what is the difference between a Catless DP and a test pipe DP?
I have seen these "test pipe DP" for sell everywhere and brand new ones for super cheap.
can someone please give me some information about it.
I been on many performance sights and tried reading the differences between them all.
Either it all goes over my head or I don't see any difference besides just the price..........:confused:

turmic 10-10-2013 04:54 PM

Is the test pipe claiming you can swap a CAT into the system easily or not? If no...it's probably just different ricer lingo. To basically mean it's not legal on the road. Which all upgraded DPs are "for off road use only."

RayRay 10-10-2013 05:29 PM

Test pipe and catless down pipe are the same thing. They call them "test pipe" because they are for off-road use only.

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Nathan21 10-10-2013 05:32 PM

Awesome ray!
so test pipe is just like a "Nick Name" for it?

PROImportTuners 10-10-2013 06:01 PM

The "Test pipe" nickname probably came from the original intent of catless pipes:

For "Track" testing. :) The idea was that you could install a "Test pipe" at the track or on the dyno to test the vehicle's maximum potential.

I guess the nickname just stuck around. We catalog the "Up pipe" as a test pipe and the "Down pipe" in both the downpipe and test pipe categories.

Nathan21 10-10-2013 06:07 PM

Why would I not need a tune for a catless catback exhaust but I will need a tune for an upgraded DP?

RayRay 10-10-2013 06:14 PM

You will need a tune for the downpipe if it is a highflow cat or catless. The ecu needs to make adjustments for the exhaust flow. Subaru's are sensitive to mods. They're not like a Honda or something similar. Adjustments need to be made to compensate for more air intake and/or exhaust flow.

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Nathan21 10-10-2013 06:22 PM

Well then, if anyone has an AP they are looking to let go let me know I am on the market for one!

RayRay 10-10-2013 06:29 PM

Check the for sale threads on the forums and regional sections. With the version 3 coming out, people are selling theirs. I've seen some for sale on eBay too.

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sleepr 10-10-2013 06:32 PM

[quote=PRO Import Tuners;372026]The "Test pipe" nickname probably came from the original intent of catless pipes:

For "Track" testing. :) The idea was that you could install a "Test pipe" at the track or on the dyno to test the vehicle's maximum potential.

I guess the nickname just stuck around. We catalog the "Up pipe" as a test pipe and the "Down pipe" in both the downpipe and test pipe categories.[/quote]

Additionally, naming it a "test pipe" allows companies to pass on the legal liability of its usage to the end user, thus allowing them to effectively sell it in states where the laws prohibit the sale and usage of "catless" exhaust systems.

Nathan21 10-10-2013 06:35 PM

so me being in cali it would make it easier to get it, yes I know that i have to change back to stock when it comes time to smog, but still you know what I mean

RayRay 10-10-2013 06:54 PM

You can get them, just need to swap back to stock for emissions. Get both Cobb AP and downpipe around the same time.

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PROImportTuners 10-11-2013 02:36 PM

The Catback systems don't generally require a tune because they have a lesser impact on turbo efficiency characteristics than a downpipe does.

A high flow catted or catless downpipe has such a larger difference in size vs the stock DP that there is a larger pressure differential across the turbine side of the turbo which dramatically affects spool and power potential (In a good way).

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