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#16 Old 06-16-2013, 09:17 PM
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So the access port stage 1 is pretty much all I need at this point and it will be safe for a long time, and that's what I want. What would I do if I installed it and started getting a knocking from the engine? So you know of people running cobbs stage 2 maps for 100k miles without issue, did they get pro tunes at some point or straight cobb generic maps?
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Searchin will net you answers... not one person can answer this
I have been searching a lot recently, especially since it's all new to me. I understand not one person can answer, I want input though of opinions and experiences that may help direct my thoughts and future upgrades. My main concern is the generic stage 1 cobb tune for a lengthy amount of time being safe. If it's not healthy for the car for a long time then I wont bother.
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Obviously any map tweaking and you're looking at a loss in overall longevity of the engine blah blah blah lol! But seriously, a stage 1 tune is more than safe for a long period of time and better than the garbage base map without a doubt! If that's all you plan to do I'd say roll with an AP. A stage 1 tune whether with an AP or without is a better choice than leaving it on the stock map IMO.

I've gotta say though, I doubt a stage 1 will keep the mod bug at bay. It bites hard and as soon as you feel the difference you're gonna want more lol!

Anything after a stage 1 tune I'd honestly recommend pro tuning and would bypass the AP unless no tuner around you tunes without it...which I highly doubt. there's more of a noticeable difference between base and stage 1 though than there is from stage 1 to 2 so maybe you'll be happy with the OTS stage 1 AP map.

Put some long thought into what you want out of the car. The purchase of an AP depends on whether you wanna push over 300whp IMO. There's a lot of good things the AP does but it restricts a pro tunes capabilities and that alone makes it a no go for me.


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So if I understand correctly, cobb stage 1 should be safe for a long time as you see it. I have done a lot of thinking, a CAI and a stage 1 tune is what I want right now. I want to have the car running the safest possible, while being able to go back to stock tune if necessary. Sorry for being a little slow with this, I just want to feel comfortable with what I'm getting myself into.
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So if I understand correctly, cobb stage 1 should be safe for a long time as you see it. I have done a lot of thinking, a CAI and a stage 1 tune is what I want right now. I want to have the car running the safest possible, while being able to go back to stock tune if necessary. Sorry for being a little slow with this, I just want to feel comfortable with what I'm getting myself into.
Yea man stage 1 and even 2 is safer then stock


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So if I understand correctly, cobb stage 1 should be safe for a long time as you see it. I have done a lot of thinking, a CAI and a stage 1 tune is what I want right now. I want to have the car running the safest possible, while being able to go back to stock tune if necessary. Sorry for being a little slow with this, I just want to feel comfortable with what I'm getting myself into.
An OTS stage 1 map is better than the base map for sure.

And I'm not 100% on this but I believe the OTS maps aren't capable of accommodating a CAI. That's something a pro tune can certainly do though. But double check into this as I planned on pro tuning right off the bat and never had to question this. I've certainly read others post about stuff like this though. I don't wanna see you waste money or lean out your car to dangerous levels. Just know if you want a CAI it's offering next to nothing for performance and gonna be there just for the sound at this point. Our intakes are good to go till stage 2+

Paul, can you confirm or deny the above about AP's and CAI's?.?.


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An OTS stage 1 map is better than the base map for sure.

And I'm not 100% on this but I believe the OTS maps aren't capable of accommodating a CAI. That's something a pro tune can certainly do though. But double check into this as I planned on pro tuning right off the bat and never had to question this. I've certainly read others post about stuff like this though. I don't wanna see you waste money or lean out your car to dangerous levels. Just know if you want a CAI it's offering next to nothing for performance and gonna be there just for the sound at this point. Our intakes are good to go till stage 2+

Paul, can you confirm or deny the above about AP's and CAI's?.?.


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Cobb ots supports aem cai


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An OTS stage 1 map is better than the base map for sure.

And I'm not 100% on this but I believe the OTS maps aren't capable of accommodating a CAI. That's something a pro tune can certainly do though. But double check into this as I planned on pro tuning right off the bat and never had to question this. I've certainly read others post about stuff like this though. I don't wanna see you waste money or lean out your car to dangerous levels. Just know if you want a CAI it's offering next to nothing for performance and gonna be there just for the sound at this point. Our intakes are good to go till stage 2+

Paul, can you confirm or deny the above about AP's and CAI's?.?.


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Yea that's fine that the intake will only make more sound and not help with performance, the sound is something I want.
I think if you have the cobb intake or AEM intake with the access port there is a map for that, it's stage 1+ which re-calibrates the MAF sensor, that is at least what it says on cobbs site, but those are the only two options. So I would probably get the cobb intake.

ops sorry never summer I must have been writing this up when you posted.
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So to sum it all in a nut shell, stage 1 is the way to go even if I kept it on the car forever and never went any further which I doubt will happen, but never know things come up and money goes else where. So I think I'm comfortable with getting the app.

Has anyone had any issue with a knocking when they installed the app stage 1? In my research I've been doing some people have gotten a knocking right after they installed it. Is this normal and will go away? Just trying to plan on things that could happen when I get it so I know what to do right or not to do, right away so there is no damage done to anything.
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So to sum it all in a nut shell, stage 1 is the way to go even if I kept it on the car forever and never went any further which I doubt will happen, but never know things come up and money goes else where. So I think I'm comfortable with getting the app.

Has anyone had any issue with a knocking when they installed the app stage 1? In my research I've been doing some people have gotten a knocking right after they installed it. Is this normal and will go away? Just trying to plan on things that could happen when I get it so I know what to do right or not to do, right away so there is no damage done to anything.
Honestly, I think stage 2 is the way to go but I'm not trying to spend your money bro.


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My numbers were all perfect. No knock no nothing. That was on stage 1 and 2. Now I'm protuned stage 2 and I'm tuned for e85. Still perfect numbers and no complaints. OP, my car is a 2013 STi. I was the same you are my friend. Pull the trigger and stage 2 it. You won't regret it


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My numbers were all perfect. No knock no nothing. That was on stage 1 and 2. Now I'm protuned stage 2 and I'm tuned for e85. Still perfect numbers and no complaints. OP, my car is a 2013 STi. I was the same you are my friend. Pull the trigger and stage 2 it. You won't regret it


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I'm not really ready to go stage 2 yet. I don't really have the funds to go there yet, but I'm hoping to in the future. My goal right now is to get stage 1 and run that for a while and enjoy it for a year or so. I figure worst case scenario is I put the factory tune back on if something isn't right. Did you do a lot of data logging on stage 1? I'm nervous because I never have done anything like that before and have no idea what I'm looking at. Do I have to data log for stage 1 even? What are your thoughts?
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I'm not really ready to go stage 2 yet. I don't really have the funds to go there yet, but I'm hoping to in the future. My goal right now is to get stage 1 and run that for a while and enjoy it for a year or so. I figure worst case scenario is I put the factory tune back on if something isn't right. Did you do a lot of data logging on stage 1? I'm nervous because I never have done anything like that before and have no idea what I'm looking at. Do I have to data log for stage 1 even? What are your thoughts?
Cobbs stage 1 should be spot on when you log. Again I was the same way you are bro. Nervous about this and nervous about that. Your car will run a lot smoother w the stage 1. You will notice a nice difference. Cobb and guys there have been doing this for years bro. Your numbers will be fine


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Cobbs stage 1 should be spot on when you log. Again I was the same way you are bro. Nervous about this and nervous about that. Your car will run a lot smoother w the stage 1. You will notice a nice difference. Cobb and guys there have been doing this for years bro. Your numbers will be fine


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That's good to know, that makes me feel a lot better about doing this. If I posted some numbers would you be able to take a quick look when get some logs? I was concerned about the warranty, but if the stage 1 tune is so much better for the car than stock then I shouldn't have any issues in the last 2 years of my warranty. Thank you for you input, it's much appreciated!
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Message me your email. Ill send you some of my logs and what to look for. It's really easy my friend


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Message me your email. Ill send you some of my logs and what to look for. It's really easy my friend


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Sent you a PM with my email. Thanks a lot. I'm going to have to get this thing ordered.
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