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post #136 of 174 Old 11-29-2011, 12:46 PM Thread Starter
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I have a final TMIC tune scheduled for next tuesday. Time to see what this baby can do with a long block and new turbo. Then I can finally update my profile. Next mod will more than likely be a custom CBRD FMIC with Chad saying they can modify my APS CAI into a short ram or make a new intake and a new FMIC tune. Compare the differences with a TMIC vs FMIC. Marketing ploy for Blouch because they will probably more than likely sell the same specification FMIC after mine gets made for cheap. Basically I won't have to pay for any of the R&D just the actual part.

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Sounds like a plan man... Hope you get some really good results.

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Oh, I'm interested in what this set-up can do on a TMIC.

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So, a little longer of a wait then what I was hoping for. My tuner got behind on some work and I have to come back at a later date. But, just view this thread for the update. The numbers...

I don't feel like double posting the same information.

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So, my tuner (Chad) let me know that my FMIC core came in and I swung by to take a look at it today. My crappy Blackberry photos are below. I added the brakecleaner can to the picture so you can get a sense of scale. Now, all they're waiting on is the metal and pipes. Brent, CBRD's welder will weld the end caps on and the pipes. But, they will test fit and mock it up a few times to make sure they're happy first. Oh...enjoy the crappy bumper beam picture at the end. LOL




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Have them weigh that heavy bumper beam. Nice core BTW.

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Man, so much more room behind that bumper beam than the 09's.

You end up with a garrett core Mr. High roller?

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Yes, a garrett core. Its the exact same FMIC core that is in the EVO that is in this month's Modified magazine. Chad said they'll probably have to trim the bumper beam still a little. But, yeah I didn't realize it had that much room. Garrett rates their cores and Chad said this core is rated at 800hp. Should be way more than what I need.

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My only advice, see about getting baffled end tanks like this:

Treadstone E1245 Intercooler Endtank- TREADSTONE PERFORMANCE

It splits the airflow from the inlet so it's better distributed through the core.

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Hmm...very interesting. Good to know.

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I've discussed the baffled end tanks with my tuner and he has said they don't work as described. They've experimented with them and found it to be un-necessary. ::Shrug:: So, it looks like a no go on my FMIC. Thanks for the suggestion though Chris.

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I'd like to see them tell Corky Bell that one then... odd

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I don't know. He's told me that he rarely uses them. That they've experimented with them and haven't seen the results that was described. So, it sounds like he has used them and hasn't seen the difference on the dyno. Weird....but, I'll take his word for it.

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The only time it seems to really help vs a non baffled is at low boost situations. Under full boost, without the baffle, you can bet you're filling up the while IC. Low boost, however, the air doesn't need to expand just to fit into the core, so it goes straight into the fins from the input end tank, generally only utilizing half the core. It may only use half the core, but it doesn't need to use more than that in that situation.

Probably one of those minimal gains for the added expense situations. Just like TGV's. Is pulling the manifold, porting the tgv's, sealing the holes, and putting it all back together worth the 5hp? Probably not, unless you already have a reason to have it all apart.

That being said, I would baffle my end tank if I was building a core from scratch like that. It's only about a $20 difference since you only need it on the input side of the core, and it definitely doesn't hurt performance. I wish I could have put one on mine, but oh well. It's a small enough core that it won't make a big difference.

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Gotcha...well, my core is way over the size and rating that I think I'll ever use it for. So, while it'd be nice to have. I just won't push for it because I'd rather not get into a arguement over it. Chad and myself will talk about what parts and what direction to go with. So, its not like he's ever forcing my hand if I have a say in the end.

Believe me....some people go there and tell him they won't change a thing and he'll run the car on the dyno unless he believes its a safety hazard to him and his employees. You just can't tell certain people anything even if he's seen it first hand for years.

Again, I appreciate the insight Chris. Oh and Chad says they'll be using a synapse FMIC BOV. He runs those on all of his EVOs because he sees a lot of problems with leaky EVO BOVs. Synapse or APS BOVs are the only EVO BOVs he trusts at this point. So, It looks like I will be running one of those at this point.

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