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#16 Old 10-15-2011, 04:09 PM
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Could be the tensioner failed..... Over or under torque the bolts on that and you're screwed.
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So the bolt that holds the timing belt tensioner snapped in half.
So what do I win?

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Ill be meeting with the managers first thing Monday to see what we can come up with. In my opinion this is just pure negligence and even if it came with no warranty they should be held responsible, guess well see Monday. On a brighter note my car is scheduled to be rebuilt by surgline November 15. Kind of a long wait but its worth it to me. I think they will do a good job, they've always done great tuning my car and from the conversations I've had had with them this last week I think they can definately handle the job...... After this there will be no selling of this car as I will have so much frikin cash into her that just thinking about it makes my eyes blur.

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I follow surgeline pretty closely as I have dealt personally with alot of the guys when I was up in that neck of the woods. A bunch of top notch guys that know alot and are dedicated to their trade. I believe that you are right in believing the wait will be worth it. I wish I was back up there so I could have those guys work and tune my car some more. Good luck with everything.

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just got back from meeting with my old builder and was told the best they will do for me is discount or maybe even free labor and parts at their cost. Its better than nothin but I'm not sure I want them to build another motor for me.

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Shame you don't live closer....lol

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Who is your old builder?

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^He's not going to say.

Tell them to cover on some parts. Get them in hand and bring em to Surgeline.

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I hope its not Outback

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^He's not going to say.

Tell them to cover on some parts. Get them in hand and bring em to Surgeline.
That has crossed my mind and if I can get away with it I will try. I would rather not say who built my motor at this time untill all is said and done. They are a very reputable company and have done a great job on my car other then not being able to build me a motor that can last more then a few months.

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Fair enough...well, best of luck to you.

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I got my baby back today, and only 5,500 big fat ones...."hatin life". So for my 5g's I got my heads rebuilt new piston rings since the last builder gapped and installed them wrong, a new exedy stage 1 clutch, 3 oil changes every 500mi untill 1500 when I get my power tune, the tune witch will include maps for both pump and E85, and all the bs that goes with the build I.E. all the gaskets, bolts and cleaning nessacerry for the job. Found alot of disturbing things while the motor was apart, such as most every bolt was stripped out the piston rings were installed wrong and a bunch of other stuff that was done wrong by the previous builder. I got lucky the pistons and block was all good. anyway Im filing suit tomorrow to try and recoup some of my hard earned cash...wish me luck



on the bright side I love having my car back, she feels really nice cant wait to get the power back after my break in is compleate

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I am always amazed at how royally a shop can #### up an engine build. I mean, it's a very complicated job and one I certainly wouldn't feel capable of doing don't get me wrong. It's just that you'd hope somebody doing the work would not be cutting his chops playing around on your motor. Especially when you take your car to shops that rebuild motors all the time, you'd expect them to at least be competent. I'm just amazed at the state of affairs where so many people put down $3k-$10k on motors that often don't make it out of the break-in period. Doesn't matter what you pay or who you trust, just seems like this happens way too often.

I understand too from a shop's perspective how they can't afford to eat the cost. To the customer, it's a $5,500 job. To the builder, it's half a week's work at probably minimum wage when shop costs are deducted. The parts cost on a job like that is through the ceiling. Asking them to eat the cost of parts and labor to re-do it can be more money than a lot of shops have! You can basically put them out of business on a job this big going badly. Reputation aside, most don't have $5,500 laying around to "make it right". A lot of shops aren't even profitable these days. I mean, a contractor works in a labor cost dominated business, he can suck up some overtime and fix things generally speaking. Car repair though? That's parts cost dominated. And generally with far looser insurance practices.

It's like a really bad marriage or something where you just scream "why didn't you get a pre-nup!". The shop sells you on how professional they are and how often they've done this kind of work and then boom. You're out $5,500 based on their BS wondering how you let yourself get into this financial position.

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I'd be willing to bet that when they compressed the rings they spun. Well glad to hear you got your car back and good luck with the law suit...

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Damn man...I hope you can let us know who did the work after the law suit. Which I'm sure will get drawn out for at least a yeah and half from now. But, damn....thats bad and I'm glad this new builder is knowledgeable to spot the errors of the previous builder. I'm glad you didn't take a financial raping to get it back and you didn't have a long down time.

I hope to be off my limp map shortly....I need to put some more miles on my car.

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Nice. Little over 2 weeks.

Heck, I could even rebuild MY motor and get it back before John gets his tranny back.

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